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Ian Thorpe

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I don't openly shout about my history, to be honest no one really cares, except people close to me, however if people in the public eye want to come out in public as gay or trans then good for them, it stops gossip and speculation and hopefully makes others feel better about themselves. TO be honest unless you haven't been in the position of being "different" then you can't understand how it feels.

As for wanting more powers, I am happy just to have the same rights as anyone else, the only thing we get more is protection against discrimination, which the vast majority of the population take don't need.
 
NO I don't, but that is thanks to the anti discrimination laws, I do know people that have suffered in the past, lost their job been banned from pubs and similar.
 
Who cares. Good grief. All this "coming out" rubbish has long gone hasn't it? They are who they are just what does it matter?


The "coming out" rubbish hasn't long gone hence why they feel the need to still do it and I'm sure it matters to them.
 
The "coming out" rubbish hasn't long gone hence why they feel the need to still do it and I'm sure it matters to them.

To be honest I still have a view that many do "come out" just for the publicity. If they want to make it public then fine but I'm sure there are many sports starts that are gay and prefer to live quietly and happily without the world knowing.
 
To be honest I believe you are way off the mark - and that's after speaking to two gay international sports people who kept it hidden for years from people because they were afraid of the reaction - they finally came out and got married after seeing others do the same. They aren't looking for publicity for their own gain - it's to help others realise it's nothing to be ashamed about despite what bile is said by people.
 
I am sure that a number of gay sports men and women decide not to publicly announce their sexuality after they retire because they also want their performance in the sport to be what people talk about, not their sexuality.
I don't think it is anyone's business what people get up to behind closed doors.
But I do believe it is a good thing that there are a number of high profile individuals that young people can look up to.
 
To be honest I believe you are way off the mark - and that's after speaking to two gay international sports people who kept it hidden for years from people because they were afraid of the reaction - they finally came out and got married after seeing others do the same. They aren't looking for publicity for their own gain - it's to help others realise it's nothing to be ashamed about despite what bile is said by people.

Of course. Should have known you'd have the inside story on another topic. I stand by my view. I think those in the public eye court this sort of publicity by making such bold announcements on social media.
 
Of course. Should have known you'd have the inside story on another topic. I stand by my view. I think those in the public eye court this sort of publicity by making such bold announcements on social media.

So why havent cricketers . football players , rugby players , boxers made bold annoucements on social media if its all about publicity !!

Yes you do stand by your view - its also massively blinkered with no factual evidence to back it up.
 
Of course. Should have known you'd have the inside story on another topic. I stand by my view. I think those in the public eye court this sort of publicity by making such bold announcements on social media.
So homosexuals are ok with you homer, as long as they stay in the closet. If the come out they are courting publicity??? :o

Come on homer, that's pretty unenlightened !!
 
So homosexuals are ok with you homer, as long as they stay in the closet. If the come out they are courting publicity??? :o

Come on homer, that's pretty unenlightened !!

Sorry but that's tosh. I have a number of friends male and female who are gay. They've always been open about it but none of them have felt the need to shout it on FB or twitter. Their friends and family know and as far as they're concerned they are the only people that matters.
 
Sorry but that's tosh. I have a number of friends male and female who are gay. They've always been open about it but none of them have felt the need to shout it on FB or twitter. Their friends and family know and as far as they're concerned they are the only people that matters.

Tosh, have you learned a new word homie....who says that in the real world.

You can't be that simple. Why would your gay friends come out on social media if they aren't in the public eye?? It serves no purpose.

News flash, homophobia still exists (it's still alive and kicking on this thread)

When Ian Thorpe or Tom Daley, come out publically it challenges homophobia. It makes it ok for others, less high profile, to live and love with pride.
If you think it's attention seeking, it's not tosh, it just makes you wrong.
 
Tosh, have you learned a new word homie....who says that in the real world.

You can't be that simple. Why would your gay friends come out on social media if they aren't in the public eye?? It serves no purpose.

News flash, homophobia still exists (it's still alive and kicking on this thread)

When Ian Thorpe or Tom Daley, come out publically it challenges homophobia. It makes it ok for others, less high profile, to live and love with pride.
If you think it's attention seeking, it's not tosh, it just makes you wrong.

Tosh saved me from an infraction for what I really wanted to write. It's an opinion, one which I think's valid. Not sure you can actually say there's a definitive right or wrong.
 
A lot of what Therod says makes sense Homer, I opened up on here because it was about golf and relevant to the forum, but its not something I mention on Social media like Twitter of Facebook, because t would only be relevant there if I was a campaigner, which I am not. In the grand scheme of things I am a nobody and my gender issues are not interesting to anyone.
However if a high profile person was the same as I am, I would applaud them for being open and it would reach a much wider audience and so hopefully make life easer for others.
 
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