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Yes it was the year before that.
Yes it was the year before that.
19thagain
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Difficult to come out??
Your joking of course!
Your best loved Soap, Corrie, now has at least 60% of the current cast playing gay roles. Oh, and if they are not playing gays, the storyline has them discussing which of their mates they would fancy if they were gay!
Now this must be representative of the world I live in ....... aye right, as they say up here!
My clubhouse is full of gay talk .... not!
I feel gays should have the same rights as the next person but I do feel, currently, that the media is on a gay promotion march.
Your joking of course!
Your best loved Soap, Corrie, now has at least 60% of the current cast playing gay roles. Oh, and if they are not playing gays, the storyline has them discussing which of their mates they would fancy if they were gay!
Now this must be representative of the world I live in ....... aye right, as they say up here!
My clubhouse is full of gay talk .... not!
I feel gays should have the same rights as the next person but I do feel, currently, that the media is on a gay promotion march.
chris661
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At least 60% are you sure? Or is it made up sensationalist garbage?
gays? Do you refer so dismissively to heterosexuals as straights?
cant say I watch the soap, as theyre from woman and "gays" and you seem to know an awful lot about the cast..............😬
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Ive just asked my tart and she said there's a combination of 5 gay characters men/women in corrie.
FairwayDodger
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As far as Thorpe goes I must admit to thinking this was an old news story, I thought he came out years ago..... I guess not.
However, once again the level of homophobia on here is depressing. Why do gays feel the need to "come out"? Well because your sexuality is a fundamental part of you and your life, and it gets pretty old constantly talking about your partner in gender-neutral terms. You lot, "straights", are constantly flaunting your heterosexuality but you don't seem to have a problem with that.
It's easy to come out nowadays is it? We should stop pushing for equality should we? Using our "gayness" to get ahead are we?
I've personally been told by a manager I was working for that I was lucky to find a company that would employ "somebody like you". I've had a car stop and people get out and threaten myself and a former GF for having the temerity to hold hands in the street. I have friends who have been physically assaulted just for being gay. My current GF and I are very circumspect about when we reveal our sexuality in public. We're just back from holiday during which time we've pretty exclusively referred to each other as "my friend" when speaking to anyone else. Why should we feel the need to hide our relationship? Because of the hateful attitudes expressed here and elsewhere.
Yes our sexuality should be irrelevant but not hidden, not a dirty secret no matter how uncomfortable it makes the homophobes amongst you. And, yes, homosexuality should be part of sex education as if it was normal because it is normal and all of us gays were children once who desperately needed to be told we weren't freaks, that we didn't need to be ashamed of ourselves... And there are currently gay kids out there who need to hear that, some of them might be YOUR kids!!
However, once again the level of homophobia on here is depressing. Why do gays feel the need to "come out"? Well because your sexuality is a fundamental part of you and your life, and it gets pretty old constantly talking about your partner in gender-neutral terms. You lot, "straights", are constantly flaunting your heterosexuality but you don't seem to have a problem with that.
It's easy to come out nowadays is it? We should stop pushing for equality should we? Using our "gayness" to get ahead are we?
I've personally been told by a manager I was working for that I was lucky to find a company that would employ "somebody like you". I've had a car stop and people get out and threaten myself and a former GF for having the temerity to hold hands in the street. I have friends who have been physically assaulted just for being gay. My current GF and I are very circumspect about when we reveal our sexuality in public. We're just back from holiday during which time we've pretty exclusively referred to each other as "my friend" when speaking to anyone else. Why should we feel the need to hide our relationship? Because of the hateful attitudes expressed here and elsewhere.
Yes our sexuality should be irrelevant but not hidden, not a dirty secret no matter how uncomfortable it makes the homophobes amongst you. And, yes, homosexuality should be part of sex education as if it was normal because it is normal and all of us gays were children once who desperately needed to be told we weren't freaks, that we didn't need to be ashamed of ourselves... And there are currently gay kids out there who need to hear that, some of them might be YOUR kids!!
19thagain
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Maybe your young lady should do a further head count, I think 4 in one house alone - all male and the we have the female characters as well.
I agree that this is a programme watched primarily by females - not many blokes will admit to viewing - but the females could have their off springs with them and they, the off springs, will assume that this behaviour is the norm.
Don't think so in my world but maybe I am closeted up here in Scotland and this is the norm down with you.
What, you think people will become gay as they've seen it on TV? Jeez, it's not something that is a choice. I'd of thought being a "skirt wearing jock" you'd understand appearance means nothing?
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What a great post but also very sad to hear that you feel the need to hide away - you shouldn't and hope one day soon you can just act like yourself amongst everyone - you should be able to express your affections for someone else as much as anyone,
If anyone doesn't realise why Ian Thorpe and others needs to "come out" it's because of prejudices that are still very active as FD has said.
Foxholer
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Crikey! Twice in a day we are on exactly the same wavelength! Stronger pills required! (or is that Pols!)
Ho hum; so what; known for some time but (understandably) not admitted.
The sooner there's no news or stigma to a sportsmans/womans sexuality the better. Apart from the likes of the Press 'sisters' obvious abuse of course!
Hsa Football had an active player 'come out' yet? Seems to me it to defies the laws of probability if there aren't, but the resistance is understandable!
MegaSteve
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I suspect he has book coming out that needs selling....
I worked with a chap who fancied him something rotten... Largely, I believe, in hope his manhood was relative to the size of his feet
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Crikey! Twice in a day we are on exactly the same wavelength! Stronger pills required! (or is that Pols!)
Ho hum; so what; known for some time but (understandably) not admitted.
The sooner there's no news or stigma to a sportsmans/womans sexuality the better. Apart from the likes of the Press 'sisters' obvious abuse of course!
Hsa Football had an active player 'come out' yet? Seems to me it to defies the laws of probability if there aren't, but the resistance is understandable!
Think Justin Fashanu was the first one to come out. Being a black footballer in the 80's was tough enough but coming out as gay as well was a brave move. Shame it ended tragically
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He didn't come out whilst he was playing - not sure if anyone has , not the only sport
Taken from Wikipedia it appears he was openly gay while at Forest
His career stalled as his professional relationship with Brian Clough deteriorated; Clough, it would appear, was disturbed by the rumours of Justin Fashanu's visits to gay nightclubs and bars. His goals and then confidence dried up as he failed to fit in with the playing and lifestyle demands of Clough, especially after Clough had discovered his homosexuality and barred him from training with the side.
Foxholer
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Correct - which is why I used 'active'!
Pretty understandable back then though - even more prejudice/abuse from the Redtops and intolerants than now!
In many other sports, it's no big deal/personal/private so much less broohar about it whether announced or not!
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Came out publicly in the 90's - all the Clough stuff was found out afterwards.
As I said taken from Wikipedia so whether its right or wrong I don't know but would seem pretty clear given the wording. Also from the same source
In 1990, he publicly came out as gay in an interview with the tabloid press, becoming the only prominent player in English football so far to do so. Although he claimed that he was generally well accepted by his fellow players, he freely admitted that they would often joke maliciously about his sexual orientation, and he also became the target of constant crowd abuse because of it.
He began a trial with Newcastle United on 24 October 1991, making one first-team appearance as a sub against Peterborough United. Manager Ossie Ardiles refused to give him a permanent contract. He signed for Torquay United on 23 November 1991. He hogged the limelight while at Plainmoor: in particular, his relationship with Coronation Street actress Julie Goodyear featured in tabloid newspapers; but he still managed to impress on the pitch, playing 21 league games that season and scoring 10 goals, though he was unable to save Torquay from suffering relegation from the Third Division.
Again its clear he was still paying after coming out
Hacker Khan
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Great post as ever on this topic. I imagine being a gay woman on this board is a challenge at times
And is it me or is this post just a rehash of the Tom Daley one, with the same people making the same ignorant comments?
Stuey01
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Great post as ever on this topic. I imagine being a gay woman on this board is a challenge at times
And is it me or is this post just a rehash of the Tom Daley one, with the same people making the same ignorant comments?
It's pretty much word for word the same as the Tom Daley one. And the England women's footballer one. Depressingly predictable.
londonlewis
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Congratulations to Ian Thorpe and may he be very happy.
I have zero issue with anyone's sexuality and have zero issue with people announcing it or it being written about in the media.
I believe that it is a good thing that celebrities can use the media for these purposes as it means they can live in the knowledge that no-one is guessing their sexuality.
I also believe that everyone has the right to keep their private lives private, if that is what they wish to do.
I sincerely hope that my daughter grows up in a world where people are much more accepting of others; not just their sexuality but their gender, religious and political beliefs, nationality ... the list goes on.
I have zero issue with anyone's sexuality and have zero issue with people announcing it or it being written about in the media.
I believe that it is a good thing that celebrities can use the media for these purposes as it means they can live in the knowledge that no-one is guessing their sexuality.
I also believe that everyone has the right to keep their private lives private, if that is what they wish to do.
I sincerely hope that my daughter grows up in a world where people are much more accepting of others; not just their sexuality but their gender, religious and political beliefs, nationality ... the list goes on.
