I Know it is Tradition but it is Still Annoying

Oddsocks

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I have been on the other side of this arrangement.

My old club relaxed the dress code in the clubhouse and for functions. After about a year I kept seeing members on the course in dark jeans and a few months after that I even saw people in full denim (can't think of another term). I have since left this club as it is now more of a cheap pay and play/pub than a golf club.

I know you may ask why nothing was done about this!! They tried to pull people into line and some of the people in question decided to walk. After a few had walked they then decided that they would now not try and stop the practice in case they lost even more members, and so it began.

Im not saying that all clubs that change dress codes will end up like this, but I would hate to be a member of another club that went the same way.

This is my point totally, the old saying " give them an inch " springs to mind.

My course may be in a bit of a position here as its a muni that is struggling so pretty much allow you to play in whatever within reason, but to me golf was meant to be a sport which carried a bit of class. how can you allow jeans in the club house but not on the course, then a couple creap on and before you know it standards have slipped.

personally im against the jeans thing 100%. i dont even wear jeans of sorts when using my range.
 

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My club also has a health club, gym and hairdressers/beauty salon on the premises. As a result there are gym members coming and going in their tracksuits and trainers, plus women coming in for their hair appointments dressed casually. I can't say that this has had any effect on the way golfers adhere to the club usual dress code or raised any issues about relaxing it.

My club is pretty chilled out about a lot of things and also quite progressive. I like it that way.

I think there is room for different types of club. If the more formal, old-school ones want to stick to their traditions and can keep memberships up, then fine. Others are pursuing more modern approaches which work for them, and good luck to them. People can join clubs that suit their own outlook.
 
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Famous Five parody? Nice!

Look it is perfectly simple. There will always be clubs to cater for every taste. Some clubs will be old fashioned, rule leaden, traditional and a bit crusty. These places cater for people who want to play two balls and foursomes, change into a jacket and tie for a world class carvery lunch, wash it down with a couple of bottles of decent Cote de Beaune then have a snooze in the members lounge. Wearing jeans, donning a cap indoors or not letting the Captain through on the first tee are capital offences! This is not everyones cup of tea, I accept that. However they are mine and I don't expect to be castigated for it.

There will also be clubs that are far more relaxed that are perfect for some and cater for a different clientele. Much more modern. A nice parkland course that is packed at the weekends with all and sundry who share a common delight in buying the latest gear and playing at the speed of a GPS routed tortoise. A nice 5 hour round can be followed by a sandwich served in a plastic packet and a delicious pint of UK brewed Stella. Members can then sit in front of a 54" TV and watch Sky Sports whilst wearing their latest pair of jeans, white trainers and Superdry polo shirts. This is idyllic for some. Not me though. I would rather pop my balls on a belt sander then dip them in Tabasco sauce than be a member of a club like this.

And there are lots of types of club in between and either side of these stereotypes too of course. But that is one of the things that makes golf in the UK great. There are venues to suit all palettes and we can all find a place we are comfortable with.

The issues of conflict arise, especially in this topic, when the members of one type of club denigrate the behaviours/rules/values of another or insinuate that an old fashioned club MUST change for whatever reason. This makes me argumentative! In fact they don't need to change. No-one here can change them. They are what they are and for some of us they are perfect.

I am just as guilty of criticising the type of clubs and behaviours that I don't like too of course but you should note that I am being more mischievous than malicious. Certainly not abusive or racist!


Anyway, must dash. I have a date with Anne, George and Timmy the dog. Lashings of Ginger Beer and hoping for a quick 4-ball in father's study!


Snelly.
 

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Famous Five parody? Nice!

Look it is perfectly simple. There will always be clubs to cater for every taste. Some clubs will be old fashioned, rule leaden, traditional and a bit crusty. These places cater for people who want to play two balls and foursomes, change into a jacket and tie for a world class carvery lunch, wash it down with a couple of bottles of decent Cote de Beaune then have a snooze in the members lounge. Wearing jeans, donning a cap indoors or not letting the Captain through on the first tee are capital offences! This is not everyones cup of tea, I accept that. However they are mine and I don't expect to be castigated for it.

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Snobby git , :):lol: (who voted for the horrible smileys )
 

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Famous Five parody? Nice!

Look it is perfectly simple. There will always be clubs to cater for every taste. Some clubs will be old fashioned, rule leaden, traditional and a bit crusty. These places cater for people who want to play two balls and foursomes, change into a jacket and tie for a world class carvery lunch, wash it down with a couple of bottles of decent Cote de Beaune then have a snooze in the members lounge. Wearing jeans, donning a cap indoors or not letting the Captain through on the first tee are capital offences! This is not everyones cup of tea, I accept that. However they are mine and I don't expect to be castigated for it.

There will also be clubs that are far more relaxed that are perfect for some and cater for a different clientele. Much more modern. A nice parkland course that is packed at the weekends with all and sundry who share a common delight in buying the latest gear and playing at the speed of a GPS routed tortoise. A nice 5 hour round can be followed by a sandwich served in a plastic packet and a delicious pint of UK brewed Stella. Members can then sit in front of a 54" TV and watch Sky Sports whilst wearing their latest pair of jeans, white trainers and Superdry polo shirts. This is idyllic for some. Not me though. I would rather pop my balls on a belt sander then dip them in Tabasco sauce than be a member of a club like this.

And there are lots of types of club in between and either side of these stereotypes too of course. But that is one of the things that makes golf in the UK great. There are venues to suit all palettes and we can all find a place we are comfortable with.

The issues of conflict arise, especially in this topic, when the members of one type of club denigrate the behaviours/rules/values of another or insinuate that an old fashioned club MUST change for whatever reason. This makes me argumentative! In fact they don't need to change. No-one here can change them. They are what they are and for some of us they are perfect.

I am just as guilty of criticising the type of clubs and behaviours that I don't like too of course but you should note that I am being more mischievous than malicious. Certainly not abusive or racist!


Anyway, must dash. I have a date with Anne, George and Timmy the dog. Lashings of Ginger Beer and hoping for a quick 4-ball in father's study!


Snelly.

Post of the year.


You posh git
 
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You'll no be going to the Scotland vee England bash next year then???

Depends on the time of year old fruit. If it coincides with the Spring run of Salmon on the Tweed or the glorious 12th for grouse on the Scottish moors then I might well do.

Pip pip.
 

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fantastic thread. My club is still in the "pants and shirt in the clubhouse" fraternity and I knew this when I joined so I don't really have an issue with it. It would be useful if Jeans were allowed as this is my usual attire, but at the moment they aren't and I am not really overly bothered so won't be complaining..
Anyway, I have nothing new to add. I just wanted e mail updates so that I knew when this thread had been added to....Carry on..
 
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Famous Five parody? Nice!

Look it is perfectly simple. There will always be clubs to cater for every taste. Some clubs will be old fashioned, rule leaden, traditional and a bit crusty. These places cater for people who want to play two balls and foursomes, change into a jacket and tie for a world class carvery lunch, wash it down with a couple of bottles of decent Cote de Beaune then have a snooze in the members lounge. Wearing jeans, donning a cap indoors or not letting the Captain through on the first tee are capital offences! This is not everyones cup of tea, I accept that. However they are mine and I don't expect to be castigated for it.

There will also be clubs that are far more relaxed that are perfect for some and cater for a different clientele. Much more modern. A nice parkland course that is packed at the weekends with all and sundry who share a common delight in buying the latest gear and playing at the speed of a GPS routed tortoise. A nice 5 hour round can be followed by a sandwich served in a plastic packet and a delicious pint of UK brewed Stella. Members can then sit in front of a 54" TV and watch Sky Sports whilst wearing their latest pair of jeans, white trainers and Superdry polo shirts. This is idyllic for some. Not me though. I would rather pop my balls on a belt sander then dip them in Tabasco sauce than be a member of a club like this.

And there are lots of types of club in between and either side of these stereotypes too of course. But that is one of the things that makes golf in the UK great. There are venues to suit all palettes and we can all find a place we are comfortable with.

The issues of conflict arise, especially in this topic, when the members of one type of club denigrate the behaviours/rules/values of another or insinuate that an old fashioned club MUST change for whatever reason. This makes me argumentative! In fact they don't need to change. No-one here can change them. They are what they are and for some of us they are perfect.

I am just as guilty of criticising the type of clubs and behaviours that I don't like too of course but you should note that I am being more mischievous than malicious. Certainly not abusive or racist!


Anyway, must dash. I have a date with Anne, George and Timmy the dog. Lashings of Ginger Beer and hoping for a quick 4-ball in father's study!


Snelly.


Nuff said.

Your course must be one heck of a world beater if its a better place than Turnberry. I assume you must be a member of Royal County Down or Muirfield then?

Actually its amazing, lets go back to Turnberry again. The last time I was at Turnberry I showered, changed and went upstairs for a bite. (I'm lucky my cousin is a member) As I'm sitting relaxing with my playing partners I get chatting to an American who was still in his spikes and waterproof jacket, large cap at a jonty angle on his head. Wonderful old gentleman who informs me that he sold off his engineering firm for an 8 figure sum and is currently touring Ireland and Britain playing the best links with his wife in tow.

I assume in your club Snelly this wouldn't be heard of. No I'm not talking about the golf shoes, waterproof jacket and cap on in the clubhouse. I'm talking about the fact that this multi millionaire was chatting to me, a poor working class bloke, even although I was better dressed than my rich American friend!

Sadly people like you exist in the world of golf!
 
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