bobmac
Major Champion
The wrists are controlled by fast twitch muscles which are difficult to control consistently.
If you feel you have to roll your wrists, I'd say there's something wrong with your grip, take away or both.
I had a lesson today and...
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The wrists are controlled by fast twitch muscles which are difficult to control consistently.
If you feel you have to roll your wrists, I'd say there's something wrong with your grip, take away or both.
Shooter McPowick
Head Pro
I’ve been watching YouTube videos this afternoon all the guys like Rick Shiels, Chris Ryan and me and my golf all pointing to grip. Need another range session now as thinking about it, I’m pretty sure my grip could do with being a touch stronger
I'm sure I've asked but where did you have the lesson. I am playing well despite the driver. Got a weak fade and distance down so will be interested to see how you progress. The good ones are really good but not often enough which is putting pressure on the rest of the game. At the moment it is up to the job but we know how quickly that can change
Shooter McPowick
Head Pro
Having my lessons with the pro at hindhead, like your pro he leaves me with photos and videos to look back at and use for reference which I find very helpful.
My iron striking is now the best it’s ever been with the lessons I received, not 100% consistent but dramatically improved. I feel the driver is going to be harder to adapt to than the irons unfortunately.
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
Actually started a lesson hitting it well! After mostly chopping it round the course on Saturday I'd had a ponder and reckoned I had a hunch where I'd fallen back, & the warm up was trending in the right direction. Some further tweaks from the pro and he was declaring he'd never seen me hit it so well (& it wasn't just BS as I could see the GC numbers also).
Mojo firmly back
(until the weekend
)
Mojo firmly back
(until the weekend
)Have hit hundreds off balls this week into the net, but just can’t do it on the course, frustrated doesn’t even come close.
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This thread convinced me that I would actually benefit from lessons, I spend stupid money on golf membership to 2 courses, new equipment, launch monitors, balls, clothing etc etc etc and my golf has stalled and is regressing backwards of late. Yet despite all of the outlay, I wont dump £60 on a lesson to help myself, rather watch youtube and put a bad version of a fix ontop of a bad foundation and expect everything to get better.
After playing last weekend on Saturday and fatting 75% of my shots off the deck, I applied a youtube fix, which worked and on Sunday I thinned about 60% of my shots, i decided enough was enough.
Id done some research on coaches near by and booked myslef lesson for yesterday. The guy was really good with me, talked about what was wrong in my mind with my golf (poor swing, too many fat/thin shots, too inconsistent), what I wanted to achieve from lessons (be able to actually play as a reasonable single figure capper, currently off 9.8 but thats last years number and on my home course and usually as soon as I go to any other course im struggling to break 90, along side consistency in strike / shot shape).
I also told him if things worked out and I can see progress i'd happily rip up my swing and totally revamp it, im not looking for a quick fix.
So had the lesson, I asked him to be brutally honest about my swing, which he was and worked on;
Set up: Ball position, posture, hand poaition, left foot
Take away; right hip movement and left arm position at the top
Downswing; impact position and low point of the swing.
Took a while to get used to a new way of standing and swinging and as i've been coming up off the ball in my downswing (leading to fat or thin shots and shots very high on the club face), hardest bit was trusting to stay down and commit to the low point of my swing way ahead of the ball. After a few bad hits ot started to click and I started to connect much better with the balls, he spayed some foot spray on the club and at one point I hit 4 shots ina row out of the middle 3/4 groves up, that may not sound like much, but to me I can see the improvement, better still I can feel it. Post lesson I got about 50 balls, and would honestly say that 35/40 of them were as better or as good as the best strikes id hit pre lesson and ot would have taken me 100s of balls to hit 40 of that quality. For reference last weekend over 2 round, I felt id middled 1 iron shot in total.
Need to stick at it now and not lapse into old ways and not watch anymore youtube!
My body aches this morning and given the amount of golf I usually play thats very unusual, so I am moat definitely using different muscles or the same muscles differently.
After playing last weekend on Saturday and fatting 75% of my shots off the deck, I applied a youtube fix, which worked and on Sunday I thinned about 60% of my shots, i decided enough was enough.
Id done some research on coaches near by and booked myslef lesson for yesterday. The guy was really good with me, talked about what was wrong in my mind with my golf (poor swing, too many fat/thin shots, too inconsistent), what I wanted to achieve from lessons (be able to actually play as a reasonable single figure capper, currently off 9.8 but thats last years number and on my home course and usually as soon as I go to any other course im struggling to break 90, along side consistency in strike / shot shape).
I also told him if things worked out and I can see progress i'd happily rip up my swing and totally revamp it, im not looking for a quick fix.
So had the lesson, I asked him to be brutally honest about my swing, which he was and worked on;
Set up: Ball position, posture, hand poaition, left foot
Take away; right hip movement and left arm position at the top
Downswing; impact position and low point of the swing.
Took a while to get used to a new way of standing and swinging and as i've been coming up off the ball in my downswing (leading to fat or thin shots and shots very high on the club face), hardest bit was trusting to stay down and commit to the low point of my swing way ahead of the ball. After a few bad hits ot started to click and I started to connect much better with the balls, he spayed some foot spray on the club and at one point I hit 4 shots ina row out of the middle 3/4 groves up, that may not sound like much, but to me I can see the improvement, better still I can feel it. Post lesson I got about 50 balls, and would honestly say that 35/40 of them were as better or as good as the best strikes id hit pre lesson and ot would have taken me 100s of balls to hit 40 of that quality. For reference last weekend over 2 round, I felt id middled 1 iron shot in total.
Need to stick at it now and not lapse into old ways and not watch anymore youtube!
My body aches this morning and given the amount of golf I usually play thats very unusual, so I am moat definitely using different muscles or the same muscles differently.
SimonC
Head Pro
Another update on my progress.
Yesterday I had my 3rd lesson with Scotty & I've made some significant changes to my swing.
Video 1 & 2 shows the difference in my swing over a 3 lesson period although it was actually a little better later on in the lesson as on one of these swings I hit a toe shank (early swing getting used to the new moves):
Video 1
http://mail2.trackman.dk/track/clic...A2M2E3ODA3MTBjNWFkOGJmZDJmZmI3MDRmYzBcIl19In0
Video2
http://mail2.trackman.dk/track/click/10654379/mytrackman.com?p=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
Video 3: earlier on in the lesson
http://mail2.trackman.dk/track/clic...A2M2E3ODA3MTBjNWFkOGJmZDJmZmI3MDRmYzBcIl19In0
And this is right at the end of the lesson giving me the feels I visuals of where & what I need to be doing:
I walked into the lesson barely hitting down at all as I had slightly misinterpreted something from my previous lesson but this was quickly sorted & ended up getting my angle of attack to around 4 to 6 degrees down. My dynamic loft was lower with my 8 iron than it was with my 7 iron during my previous lesson & this meant I was hitting the ball much lower & hitting what felt like chipped 8 irons that flew 150 yards. This is really exciting for me as I've never hit my irons very far in comparison to my driver which I get the most out of so I'm looking forward to getting the move ingrained & gradually turning on the power to see how much further & straighter I'm hitting it.
Yesterday I had my 3rd lesson with Scotty & I've made some significant changes to my swing.
Video 1 & 2 shows the difference in my swing over a 3 lesson period although it was actually a little better later on in the lesson as on one of these swings I hit a toe shank (early swing getting used to the new moves):
Video 1
http://mail2.trackman.dk/track/clic...A2M2E3ODA3MTBjNWFkOGJmZDJmZmI3MDRmYzBcIl19In0
Video2
http://mail2.trackman.dk/track/click/10654379/mytrackman.com?p=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
Video 3: earlier on in the lesson
http://mail2.trackman.dk/track/clic...A2M2E3ODA3MTBjNWFkOGJmZDJmZmI3MDRmYzBcIl19In0
And this is right at the end of the lesson giving me the feels I visuals of where & what I need to be doing:
I walked into the lesson barely hitting down at all as I had slightly misinterpreted something from my previous lesson but this was quickly sorted & ended up getting my angle of attack to around 4 to 6 degrees down. My dynamic loft was lower with my 8 iron than it was with my 7 iron during my previous lesson & this meant I was hitting the ball much lower & hitting what felt like chipped 8 irons that flew 150 yards. This is really exciting for me as I've never hit my irons very far in comparison to my driver which I get the most out of so I'm looking forward to getting the move ingrained & gradually turning on the power to see how much further & straighter I'm hitting it.
Oddsocks
Ryder Cup Winner
Thing that I love with golf is that one persons fault can be another persons goal.
Had a lesson this week after bratty ruined my game at the weekend and it’s yet again the same faults. Low rotation, short back swing and a rushed down swing with no transition. 10 years golf as a junior with no initial tuition is a long term killer.
Had a lesson this week after bratty ruined my game at the weekend and it’s yet again the same faults. Low rotation, short back swing and a rushed down swing with no transition. 10 years golf as a junior with no initial tuition is a long term killer.
SurreyGolfer
Active member
Had a lesson yesterday and points were:
- Excellent takeaway,
- Ok backswing
- From top of backswing onwards things go awry, with my club coming down too steep and straight, rather than shallow and going 'around my body' after follow through. This is giving me trouble with longer clubs and my bad shot being a straight push right.
All makes sense, all on video. Just need to spend some time practicing and fixing it now!
- Excellent takeaway,
- Ok backswing
- From top of backswing onwards things go awry, with my club coming down too steep and straight, rather than shallow and going 'around my body' after follow through. This is giving me trouble with longer clubs and my bad shot being a straight push right.
All makes sense, all on video. Just need to spend some time practicing and fixing it now!
Junior
Tour Winner
Great work ?I love a good golf lesson especiallywhen you see progress between them. I think I may have to pay this dude a visit.
bobmac
Major Champion
You weren't hitting it left at all?
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
Been enjoying these lesson updates too. Very intresting to see the progress.
I'd enjoy a lesson with this guy too if I was near by as we both have similar backswings. I would need him to get hands on and physically move me into the positions on the down and follow through as my club doesnt exit the same as yours. That and a fair bit less speed. I've also had a problem with getting open. It just doesn't seem to happen for me.
Keep up the good work
SimonC
Head Pro
Yes it's nice to see that I'm actually making changes. There's a lot of range work in between lessons but it's paying off.
I'd definitely recommend him as long as you put in the work. If you book a lesson then let him know Simon Cornwell recommended him as I'll get a half price lesson.
SimonC
Head Pro
Been enjoying these lesson updates too. Very intresting to see the progress.
I'd enjoy a lesson with this guy too if I was near by as we both have similar backswings. I would need him to get hands on and physically move me into the positions on the down and follow through as my club doesnt exit the same as yours. That and a fair bit less speed. I've also had a problem with getting open. It just doesn't seem to happen for me.
Keep up the good work
Thanks Gary. He does get hands on and gives you different feels until there's one that works for you, as what I feel may be totally different to what you feel. The funny thing is I'm not actually trying to get open it happens naturally once the backswing is in the correct position and your body then reacts, this may not happen for everyone but it does at least for me.
I'll make sure I keep posting, I've got another lesson in 2 weeks.
SimonC
Head Pro
No why would I be hitting it left Bob, I hit it left less than I used to as I'm not flipping at impact? My ball flight has come down though.
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
I know exactly what you mean about feel and real. Major issue for me has been a flat turn of the shoulders. Worked a fair bit this last year or so on trying to turn the left shoulder more down to the ball on the backswing.
I've been going to the range one a week since the new year helping a friend who's just started. He hits about 80% of the balls. This saves my back lol.
Ill post a few swings here so you can see the similarities in backswing and differences in downswing and post impact.
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
Couldn't fault the contact that night.
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
Another week another idea. Trying to delay the hit. This was one of the best ones I hit and lucky to catch it on film. Solid, lower flight and got out there.
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
This week. Wee idea before I left to try and get the right eblow off my side on the backswing and higher hands at top of swing . My swing can get a bit short.
When I caught these they went well. Looked a higher flight but always cut.
When I caught these they went well. Looked a higher flight but always cut.
