SaintHacker
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Very well said Paul? Slasher for PM. Oops, politics, sorry...
i think a lot of people can sympathise and empathise with what he wrote and have similar views across a lot of jobs and areas of society. We have all had to put up with masses of new rules, procedures, spotlights etc that make jobs much more frustrating. i just had a meeting with senior managers and the internal police about new rules and procedures for elements of the job - the manuals were in total over 200 pages long! You look back on the way policing used to be, with community officers and the like, where the job was the job and form filling was in its infancy and it feels top me that the public had much more respect and appreciation of the police. The same with Schools when teachers may lob a a piece of chalk at a disruptive student and (not that it was there for me) you got the cane or slipper for misbehaving - even detention after school or at lunch etc seems to be a thing of the past. The respect for authority seems to have vanished and now the cancel-culture winge-driven entitled generation of woke worrious think they have the right to complain at anything - for anyone potentially looking at them the wrong way, telling them anything that can now be construed as having the smallest element of sexism, racism, bullying or any other new ism that is not yet invented. We need to get back to a strong moral backbone, common sense rules, come down hard on bad people and make everyone feel safer and that they belong and have bought in to the piece of the world and society that that they live in and and not try and back every social-media driven cause of the day. Back the Police, back teachers, back nurses and doctors and fireman. Cut the red tape, focus on the core of the job - protect people, look after people, save people etc. Accept that people make mistakes and don't tarnish the masses of any profession or job with a few indiscretions of the very small minority of bad people - bad people are bad people not bad police or bad doctors etc.
I suspect doing his job he has a bigger understanding of the “real world” than quite a few on here hopefully.This post is inherently political. Also the guy seems like a total idiot, devoid of any notion of what the real world is like.
Yep, bad apples in all professions, doesn’t mean we have to treat the majority the same way otherwise we would never trust a doctor.It makes no mention of some of the reasons why the public and politicians don't trust them, like the indisputable systemic racism of the Met and using the few bad apples excuse suggests the writer is familiar with a step or two on the victimhood ladder himself.
We should always question authority. Always.
Yep, bad apples in all professions, doesn’t mean we have to treat the majority the same way otherwise we would never trust a doctor.
I suspect doing his job he has a bigger understanding of the “real world” than quite a few on here hopefully.
You didn't question. You abused his opinion.We should always question authority. Always.
I don’t assume all authority is wrong but I will always question that authority to determine if I agree with it or not.You didn't question. You abused his opinion.
There is nothing wrong with questioning authority. There is however an issue with people who think that because it is authority, it is wrong. It may be but to pre-judge in a negative way, as you seem to do, is not the way.
and hence, here is the root of all problems. And no surprise on your anarchistic views
Questioning authority isn’t necessarily anarchistic. Assuming all authority was misplaced would be.and hence, here is the root of all problems. And no surprise on your anarchistic views
I suspect doing his job he has a bigger understanding of the “real world” than quite a few on here hopefully.
All these things we should get back to has been eroded over years of cut backs and reducing numbers, we’ll never get back to the era you’re dreaming about.i think a lot of people can sympathise and empathise with what he wrote and have similar views across a lot of jobs and areas of society. We have all had to put up with masses of new rules, procedures, spotlights etc that make jobs much more frustrating. i just had a meeting with senior managers and the internal police about new rules and procedures for elements of the job - the manuals were in total over 200 pages long! You look back on the way policing used to be, with community officers and the like, where the job was the job and form filling was in its infancy and it feels top me that the public had much more respect and appreciation of the police. The same with Schools when teachers may lob a a piece of chalk at a disruptive student and (not that it was there for me) you got the cane or slipper for misbehaving - even detention after school or at lunch etc seems to be a thing of the past. The respect for authority seems to have vanished and now the cancel-culture winge-driven entitled generation of woke worrious think they have the right to complain at anything - for anyone potentially looking at them the wrong way, telling them anything that can now be construed as having the smallest element of sexism, racism, bullying or any other new ism that is not yet invented. We need to get back to a strong moral backbone, common sense rules, come down hard on bad people and make everyone feel safer and that they belong and have bought in to the piece of the world and society that that they live in and and not try and back every social-media driven cause of the day. Back the Police, back teachers, back nurses and doctors and fireman. Cut the red tape, focus on the core of the job - protect people, look after people, save people etc. Accept that people make mistakes and don't tarnish the masses of any profession or job with a few indiscretions of the very small minority of bad people - bad people are bad people not bad police or bad doctors etc.
Pretty much agree with your post, apart from this bit. Applying demeaning labels to people who disagree with your view of the world just causes wider divisions. Some of the folks you're describing might have genuine grievances that should be addressed rather than silenced.The respect for authority seems to have vanished and now the cancel-culture winge-driven entitled generation of woke worrious think they have the right to complain at anything - for anyone potentially looking at them the wrong way, telling them anything that can now be construed as having the smallest element of sexism, racism, bullying or any other new ism that is not yet invented.
That is not an anarchist view. You can consider it either as the old quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (who watches the watchmen?), which, as the language suggests is not a new idea, or in more modern terms, a policy of constant improvement and avoiding slipping back into old ways of working.
A generalisation that all the public and politicians don't trust them. Mistakes happen in the police as in all forms of life. Do we blame every police officer for that?It makes no mention of some of the reasons why the public and politicians don't trust them, like the indisputable systemic racism of the Met and using the few bad apples excuse suggests the writer is familiar with a step or two on the victimhood ladder himself.
A generalisation that all the public and politicians don't trust them. Mistakes happen in the police as in all forms of life. Do we blame every police officer for that?
Do we blame every Irish person for the atrocities of the IRA?
Do we blame every Muslim for the crimes of ISIS?
Do we blame every Doctor for the murders carried out by Harold Shipman?
The ACAB movement is something fuelled by anarchists and jumped on by those who break the rules and then don't like it when they get done for it. The Police get blamed for not solving a crime but they're the first that people call on when they have a problem themselves.
The 'a few bad apples' excuse is used to dismiss systemic or institutional problems. Some events, Shipman, the murder of Sarah Everard are triggers that should force deeper looks at the institutions involved. Sometimes that process serves as a whitewash, sometimes it identifies problems which need fixed, sometimes it is used as cover for other changes that The Man wanted to make anyway.
I had to google ACAB, not previously aware of that, but distrust of the police in some communities has been reinforced by the actions of the police, and a vicious circle ensues. Some of the same communities also distrust the NHS as seen in vaccine hesitancy. The primary responsibility for breaking that circle is with the institution.
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