How unequal is equality.

[Rooter]

Does it make them hit the ball harder?

Have you never grunted while hitting a driver? Might get you to forum average! Dare you to try it on the first this weekend...

 

[FairwayDodger]

You have just emphasized my point, if you look hard enough you will find exceptions to the rule. I would love to watch womens tennis as they are just as skillful as the men but the grunting is ridiculous. It never used to happen until Monica Seles appeared on the scene, now it is almost a requirement. Does it make them hit the ball harder?

Not really, I was trying to make a serious point in a humourous manner. Some female players grunt and some don't, some male players grunt and some don't but it's only ever the women's grunting that seems to be singled out.

It's partly why it's difficult to have a serious discussion about the OP. It's a complicated issue, certainly not black and white in any way, but the thread is full of casual sexism and posters who automatically dismiss women's sport without any sensible consideration of the bigger picture.

 

[Qwerty]

A way forward initially would be for the Worlds largest sporting events to have Ladies and Gents sides of the tournament, say in the Open for example.. the ladies Open (at the same course) would run for the 4 days before.
Women's Football World Cup.. Same country immediately before or after, and so on.

It works in tennis so why not other Sports/Events. Gate money, Sponsors money and TV money all split = Equal pay.
..and on the whole each event would be a better sporting spectacle for it.

 

[harpo_72]

Take the emotion of gender out of the argument. Think about the show, what gets the most viewers.
What is basically being said is movie A is better than movie B but movie B doesn't make the same gross because more people watched movie A is that unfair??

 

[FairwayDodger]

Take the emotion of gender out of the argument. Think about the show, what gets the most viewers.
What is basically being said is movie A is better than movie B but movie B doesn't make the same gross because more people watched movie A is that unfair??

The trouble is that everyone who tries to break it down like this takes a hugely complex situation and over simplifies it.

 

[harpo_72]

The trouble is that everyone who tries to break it down like this takes a hugely complex situation and over simplifies it.

Or somethings are simple but being made complex ..... By the way I make sure that all my employees irrespective of gender are paid on their experience and ability. Sexism works two ways, there is a generation of men coming through who do not care about gender and honestly I cringe at both sides.