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It is something which some say yes to keeping it on and others say no eg from air con specialist company

In our experience, switching off your air con when you are not using it is a good idea. Not only can permanent running be a drain on your battery, but it can also shorten the length of time between air con re-gassing.

Re-gassing is a minor cost , and more likely to be needed if underused and it leaks from broken seals.

Drain the battery? If the car is running it runs off the car it's fine.
 

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In fairness, it does drain my battery more when I'm running my hybrid on electric only. That's what the computer in the car is telling me.

Hybrid different kettle of fish tho because it's trying to run the car from both so would drain from the hybrid battery

Not the 12 volt

Same with my car it drains from the proper battery and not the 12 volt

It uses minor extra "fuel" in all cars
 

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Hybrid different kettle of fish tho because it's trying to run the car from both so would drain from the hybrid battery

Not the 12 volt

Same with my car it drains from the proper battery and not the 12 volt

It uses minor extra "fuel" in all cars

This depends on the method by which the AC pump is being turned and the resistance level of the pulley wheel. Just like not all power steering is the same, not all AC pumps are driven the same and some do impact fuel consumption way more than others.
 

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It is something which some say yes to keeping it on and others say no eg from air con specialist company

In our experience, switching off your air con when you are not using it is a good idea. Not only can permanent running be a drain on your battery, but it can also shorten the length of time between air con re-gassing.

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/car-maintenance/air-con-myths-busted/

Point 2 Should I use the air-con in winter too?

In a word, absolutely.

In fact consider it an essential part of car maintenance that could directly save you money on repair work further down the line.

First and foremost using warm air from the system in winter is a great way to demist the windows.

The air coming out of the vents is dry, so the air-con acts as a dehumidifier.

An air-con system is much like the human body – if not used for long periods it can seize up, plus circulation suffers.

The air-con is filled with a refrigerant and some oil, and it pays to keep that liquid flowing and the components of the system lubricated.
 

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Air con in a car should be run reasonably regularly to keep the seals lubricated otherwise they dry and then may start to leak. However, running air con does impact on your fuel use and economy.
Many modeen cars will activate the air con automatically when screen defrost setting is set, well every VW van I have had in the last 15 years does anyway:), so does my Mazda car:)

Supermarket fuel.....you can keep it
 

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For those who say that air ocon increases fuel consumption, do they also agree that driving with the windows also increases consumption? In that case, how do we prevent heat stroke whilst driving economically? :LOL::LOL:
 

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For those who say that air ocon increases fuel consumption, do they also agree that driving with the windows also increases consumption? In that case, how do we prevent heat stroke whilst driving economically? :LOL::LOL:

Wonder how many will turn noses up at supermarket fuel because it's worth the extra to keep the car going but will save the air con thus causing more issues down the line to save a few pence

I have "eco" mode in My car I think it can add 10 miles per full charge .. but you don't get full power (no issue) and don't get the climate control .. so per kw you save 0.22 miles

It's really not worth it unless u needed to eek out that charge just a little bit to get to the next charger because your plans have failed..
 
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I haven’t turned the Aircon off in any car I’ve owned that has had it. The only time I’ve ever needed a re-gas was when I had a pheasant sized hole in the condenser of my XC90.
 

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I haven’t turned the Aircon off in any car I’ve owned that has had it. The only time I’ve ever needed a re-gas was when I had a pheasant sized hole in the condenser of my XC90.

I had the civic regassed when the air con always blew hot ...turns out after some foruming it was a relay under the bonet at failed.. £25 part off eBay .. quick 5 min change and air con was fixed again

Amazing what owner forums can do
 

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For those who say that air ocon increases fuel consumption, do they also agree that driving with the windows also increases consumption? In that case, how do we prevent heat stroke whilst driving economically? :LOL::LOL:
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For those who say that air ocon increases fuel consumption, do they also agree that driving with the windows also increases consumption? In that case, how do we prevent heat stroke whilst driving economically? :LOL::LOL:

Personally, I like to drive with the steering wheel and pedals... does wonders for consumption. And safety.
 

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Well, BBC saying that oil is back under $100 a barrell now. Bearing in mind how quickly prices went up, lets see how rapidly they drop.

About 6 months?

If any one is charging over £1.50 a litre in a week they should be fined for extortion
 

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Well, BBC saying that oil is back under $100 a barrell now. Bearing in mind how quickly prices went up, lets see how rapidly they drop.

I saw this. I have 1/4 of a tank left, am doing a decent sized journey on Friday, diesel has just gone up another 3p at Morrisons near to me today. Do I get down to vapour in the hope a drop happens by Friday or do I suck it up and fill now because prices are still going north at the pumps? It's a calculation I suspect many are making right now.
 

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For those who say that air ocon increases fuel consumption, do they also agree that driving with the windows also increases consumption? In that case, how do we prevent heat stroke whilst driving economically? :LOL::LOL:
An AA man told me once that up to 40mph it's more economical to have the windows open, over 40 mph it's more economical to use the air-con
Whether that's true or not I don't know.......
 
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