How much does this cost the NHS.

I had the misfortune to spend 5-6 hours in the RVI Hospital in Newcastle this morning and after reading last nights posts I took more notice of the other people who were there. Undoubtedly we have a weight issue in this Country, but in the time I observed, there was way more skinny or average weight people who looked far worse than the overweight people, and I don't mean the sick I mean the people who were accompanying the sick (wrong to stigmatise fat or thin people when we have no idea what they are suffering from) Dirty, smelly, clothes were filthy, bad language, give me clean fat person than a filthy lean person any day. If i hadn't of been in a hospital it could've easily been a selection process for Jeremy Kyle show!
 
Whilst we're on the JK show topic. I think anyone that applies should be invited to a mock studio that's really some sort of gas chamber...

I'm guessing that's not very pc??
 
Often I think comfort eating is like drink or drugs or smoking. Humans seem to need a vice and often a destructive one.
 
Tashyboy said:
Had to go to the local hospital yesterday with Missis Tash for summat that's quite serious. Anyway she had to have several tests whilst in there. The amount of people that were overweight and I mean massively overweight was staggering. And some of the staff weren't helping.
i made the same comment to Missis T whilst people watching.
A few years ago "fat Al" who once had his waist measured and was wider than taller, had a medical at me pit. Anyway me boss was bending his ear for twenty mins about his weight. He said quite straight faced" let's be right sister your no Kylie Minouge are you" she said I am wasting my time aren't I. He and his whole family are massively overweight and claiming a fortune in benefits and treatment.
quite sad.
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I didn't understand a word of that? :confused:
 
So skinny people = good people/not spongers then, if I can take to be a rule of thumb going from the comments on here.

Its hard to tell who is being sarcastic and who is being serious.:smirk:
 
Liverbirdie said:
So skinny people = good people/not spongers then, if I can take to be a rule of thumb going from the comments on here.

Its hard to tell who is being sarcastic and who is being serious.:smirk:
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Thats an inverted view of whats been said. No one has suggested that thin people are all good :) but rather there is a growing obesity problem.
 
SocketRocket said:
Thats an inverted view of whats been said. No one has suggested that thin people are all good :) but rather there is a growing obesity problem.
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There is a growing obesity problem, of that there is no doubt, but some comments seem to associate obesity with sponging and laziness.

I'm sure that people suffering from anorexia are also a drain on the NHS, but that is probably harder to spot, or should these people also be put in the village stocks, also?
 
The problem is not so much fat or thin, but the part of the population that know better they know they are not looking after themselves and expect the nhs to fix them, whether that be too much alcohol, smoking or food.
 
Liverbirdie said:
There is a growing obesity problem, of that there is no doubt, but some comments seem to associate obesity with sponging and laziness.

I'm sure that people suffering from anorexia are also a drain on the NHS, but that is probably harder to spot, or should these people also be put in the village stocks, also?
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Anorexia is IMO a mental health issue. Maybe Obesity has a trait of mental health but it generally seems more related to greed and lifestyle. There is also the scale of the problem, around 30% of the population is obese.

Might have to build some bigger stocks !
 
I think at some point, however draconian it may sound, the way you look after yourself will in some way be linked to the treatment that you can access. For example, if someone is relatively inactive, a Fitbit / Apple Watch or whatever replaces them (implanted tech) will track their steps/heart rate etc and if you do nothing but sit in front of the telly, then your options are restricted when it comes to the treatment of conditions relative to obesity.

As healthcare becomes more commoditised in the UK, I can see something like this being implemented in future.

It is roughly the same principle as tagging offenders to monitor curfews and the like.
 
Snelly said:
I think at some point, however draconian it may sound, the way you look after yourself will in some way be linked to the treatment that you can access. For example, if someone is relatively inactive, a Fitbit / Apple Watch or whatever replaces them (implanted tech) will track their steps/heart rate etc and if you do nothing but sit in front of the telly, then your options are restricted when it comes to the treatment of conditions relative to obesity.

As healthcare becomes more commoditised in the UK, I can see something like this being implemented in future.

It is roughly the same principle as tagging offenders to monitor curfews and the like.
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This is the way forward
 
SocketRocket said:
Anorexia is IMO a mental health issue. Maybe Obesity has a trait of mental health but it generally seems more related to greed and lifestyle. There is also the scale of the problem, around 30% of the population is obese.

Might have to build some bigger stocks !
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Anorexia is certainly a mental health issue, characterised by a pathological body image and is very had to treat.

Obesity is generally behavioural, and associated with the habit of overeating, which can be managed.

The growing size of the population does not seem to have put much of a brake on ever increasing life expectancy, so I wouldn't panic just yet.
 
Go into any supermarket and you will see all the cheap offers are for the cr@p stuff. 4 Mars bars for a £1, Cadbury's chocolate biscuits buy one get one free ect ect ect, I have never seen these offers in the fruit and veg section.
 
G.U.R said:
Go into any supermarket and you will see all the cheap offers are for the cr@p stuff. 4 Mars bars for a £1, Cadbury's chocolate biscuits buy one get one free ect ect ect, I have never seen these offers in the fruit and veg section.
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Thats not quite right is it.. lettuce 49p, cucumber 49p, bag of apples for a quid, 3 peppers for a quid, broccoli 49p, grapes 1.50. Fruit and veg is the cheapest its ever been! Its the lazy, feckless fatties that get drawn to the processed, high fat options.

The retailers are not to blame here, everything is ok in moderation.

Maybe its time for the retailers to step in? BMI over 30 = not allowed anything with a red or amber traffic light on the daily suggestion label...
 
Rooter said:
Maybe its time for the retailers to step in? BMI over 30 = not allowed anything with a red or amber traffic light on the daily suggestion label...
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So that's most of the England Rugby Forwards sorted then!
 
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