Hodgson's time up?

[AuburnWarrior]

Liverpool's squad is rubbish!!! They only have two real Premiership players who could play in a top four team - Gerrard and Torres. If one or both of them have an off day then Liverpool are a very mediocre Premiership team at best.
Ngog, Babel, Lucas, I could go on but most of the Liverpool squad would struggle to get in the Wigan first team, let alone a top four/CL team.
RH had his work cut out from the start, the fans need to get behind him, ride out this rough patch, sell the rubbish and then get some decent players.
It'll take time though...

 

[Dodger]

Stupid choice of manager in the first instance if you ask me.

MO'N must be in the frame, don't particularly like the man but he has a dam fine track record.

EH? Where? Speaking as a bit of a Celtic fan he was worse than useless when his luck ran out, as well as signing fannies on long over paid contrtacts then shagging off.

What he said,along with Wenger he is an over rated gaffer and his football is dire to watch.....at least Wenger has actually won something of note,a long time ago granted.

 

[bozza]

I think he's doing a great job

You an everton fan?

yeah I am

our manager isn't doing too good at the moment either. Moyes is really starting to piss me off. Yesterday he had 3 strikers on the bench and started with a midfielder as a lone striker. He really baffles me sometimes.

Yeah i've always been a moyes fan to but some of his decisions this season have lost me. Against teams like west ham we should be playing with 2 strikers upfront and beating them easy. Fair enough if your playing some of the bigger teams maybe only play with one upfront and play a little more defensive.

Anyway cahill is off to the asia cup in january so he's going to have to start playing with a striker up front but with moyes's recent strange tactics it wouldn't suprise me if he stuck hibbert upfront!

Oh and on the subject of liverpool they really have got one of the poorest teams in the premership ( and i aint just saying that cause i hate them) apart from gerrard, reina and torres when he is on form i really think the rest of the team would struggle to get in most premiership sides.

 

[SeanMc]

I think the most disappointing thing is which someone picked up on, is that there was no desire there last night, and Wolves got in our faces early on, didnt let us play on the deck, and could probably see in the first 5 mins that we werent up for it.

The most disappointing this was that when we went 1-0 down, nothing changed, they still played better, we hardly bombarded their goal with chances.

Torres doesnt look bothered anymore, his attitude stinks, admittedly ngog is a bit raw but at least he gave it a go.
Id cash in on Torres if this form continues, cos having to carry him doesnt help matters.

As for Roy, stop rubbing your bloody face! What sort of message is his body language sending out the players, he needs to get up an give some of them an ear bashing. Playing kuyt and meireles on the wings screams no width or no pace, is it any wonder torres and ngog are isolated.
Apologies to fulham or blackburn (or even grasshopper zurich) fans but hes got a small team mentality, saying we deserved something out the game is an insult, and saying you shouldnt 'expect' to beat anyone at anfield is rubbish, especially against a wolves team who cant win away for love nor money.

In regards to the squad he was left, torres, gerrard, johnson, reina, carra, agger isnt mid table, although admittedly the rest i can take or leave. Adding konchesky and poulsen is sub liverpool standard, whether thats the 1980s liverpool or 2010 liverpool side.

sorry for the rant but it was an embarassement

 

[chrisd]

I liked the Liverpool fans singing "Hodgson for England" .... I just hope no one takes it seriously!

 

[freddielong]

I thought when he took it he was to old to start such a big job, he has been at small clubs to long he has a small club mentality, you can't buy players like Konchesky and play them at a big club like Liverpool.

Its sad but he needs to leave while he still has a reputation.

 

[Macster]

Football's mentality with sacking Managers is just ridiculous full-stop.

ie.- Sacking of Chris Hughton at Newcastle - despite taking them INTO Premiership and lying in 11th.

And most ridiculously, - why do managers get jobs with Huge salaries, contracts for 3/4/5 yrs, with Guaranteed Payoff's if they dont succeed ?
Whatever happened to normal employment law ?

Tis crazy, completely stupid.

Benitez has probably made 10million or more in the last 6mths out of his 2 dismissals alone, and sure to walk into something else straight after the Christmas break, with another stupid contract on offer.

 

[stevek1969]

Why get rid of him keep him there ,the way there playing they'll be in the Championship soon,a terrible side with 2 players and decent keeper.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

The thing with Hodgson at Fulham was that he had a team of limited ability (Zamora v Torres Murphy v Gerrard for example) but he had them playing in a style that suited their ability and more importantly he had the team playing for him, themselves and the fans.

Europe above anything proved that. To come back time and again against experienced European campaigners and to beat Juventus 4-1 at home epitomised everything he had achieved. To be honest the Final was the first and only time we froze and didn't perform.

Aside from that we played nearly 70 matches on a much smaller squad than most in the PL and still survived with ease. If we hadn't had Europe I think he'd have certainly concetrated on the domestic cups which I thin the way we layed we could have had a good run in and we'd certainly finished to 6-8

At Liverpool he hasn't got the team playing the right way. Why he took Koncheski from us is a mystery as he isn't anything other than an honest full back. Certainly not top European standard or top 4 PL standard. He certainly has the tactical nous, especially so compred with Bentitez but he hasn't got the players behind him.

I think Liverpool have too many players inherited from previous regimes that aren't interested in playing for the club and don't perform regularly enough. They need to clear out, the fans need to accept they are in a state of flux and show patience and the board need to buy with clinical efficiency and get square pegs for square holes and not go on reputations and big names

Sadly I don't think he'll get the time or resources to make a difference. If he goes I'd happily swap Hodgson back at Fulham and get rid of Hughes who is another who clearly hasn't got the confidence of the players despite our miracle at Stoke

 

[Yerman]

What chance Houllier going back to Liverpool, before he gets Villa relegated?

 

[pokerjoke]

I definately think roy is on his way out,i feel sorry for him as he inherited a load of crap players and then added more crap.Liverpool are a massive club and they need a world class manager,however whos available.Maybe bring Daglish back to the end of the season,and wait to someone decent becomes available.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

He has to go and sharpish!

This is what you get when you let money men make footballing decisions Purslow and Broughton.

When he took the job on he new what players he had to work with and the possibility of having no money to invest in new players.

He must've thought he could turn it around with this set of players and now he's realised even with his 35yrs of football experience he is well out of his depth.

I'm all for giving him time but his style of football/tactics are nothing but shite. I have seen no improvement from his team this season whatsoever,and his signings have been worse!

As for selling Torres that would be the worst decision ever, he just needs the teams tactics to play to his strengths and not just lumping balls upto him.

 

[SatchFan]

I agree with Macster on the sacking of managers. Makes very little sense. I am no real expert on the finer points of football but I reckon it should be the 11 idiots on the pitch who should be shown the door. I am a manager (not football!) and if my staff underperform they are given a certain amount of support but if they don't come up to scratch then they are got rid of. You cannot afford to carry dead weight in any business, including football. I feel a bit sorry for Roy Hodgson and those managers who have already been sacked this season as their hands are somewhat tied due to the transfer window which means they are stuck with the 24 lemons they inherited and you can't make a silk purse out of a pig's metatarsal.

 

[AuburnWarrior]

I agree with Macster on the sacking of managers. Makes very little sense. I am no real expert on the finer points of football but I reckon it should be the 11 idiots on the pitch who should be shown the door. I am a manager (not football!) and if my staff underperform they are given a certain amount of support but if they don't come up to scratch then they are got rid of. You cannot afford to carry dead weight in any business, including football. I feel a bit sorry for Roy Hodgson and those managers who have already been sacked this season as their hands are somewhat tied due to the transfer window which means they are stuck with the 24 lemons they inherited and you can't make a silk purse out of a pig's metatarsal.

I wouldn't feel too sorry for them. If you got the sack, you'd get nothing. When they get the sack they get a multi million pound pay out and, invariably, walk straight into another job.

Even rubbish managers (and players to a certain extent) have a job for life in football.

 

[intherough]

Hodgens the wrong man to start with, he's not a big enough manager, he did well at Fulham but that's the level he should stay.

 

[Junior]

Hodgens the wrong man to start with, he's not a big enough manager, he did well at Fulham but that's the level he should stay.

But who is ?? There are no big name managers going who would leave the current clubs they are at . . . The fans seem to be calling for Dalgleish, but with the players at his disposal he wont do much better than Hodgson it will take 2 / 3 seasons to turn the team around, no matter who takes charge.

 

[thecraw]

Stupid choice of manager in the first instance if you ask me.

MO'N must be in the frame, don't particularly like the man but he has a dam fine track record.

EH? Where? Speaking as a bit of a Celtic fan he was worse than useless when his luck ran out, as well as signing fannies on long over paid contrtacts then shagging off.

What he said,along with Wenger he is an over rated gaffer and his football is dire to watch.....at least Wenger has actually won something of note,a long time ago granted.

Typical deluded Celtic fans with selective memories!

 

[G1BB0]

I expected to lose last night.... sort of becoming a habit the last few years, beat the top team (Man U this season) and lose against the strugglers.

There is no team spirit and dare I say it a lack of ambition. There are good enough players in the squad he just choses the wrong line ups from the start. Kuyt should not be on the wing, ngog should not start, konchesky should be 2nd choice behind aurelio... I could go on and on. Then again what do I know as I dont have the badges and only watched/played for the last 30 odd years

It isnt so much a new manager as a change of mentality with the way we play with the resources available!

 

[HRC99]

Liverpool's squad is rubbish!!! They only have two real Premiership players who could play in a top four team - Gerrard and Torres. If one or both of them have an off day then Liverpool are a very mediocre Premiership team at best.
Ngog, Babel, Lucas, I could go on but most of the Liverpool squad would struggle to get in the Wigan first team, let alone a top four/CL team.
RH had his work cut out from the start, the fans need to get behind him, ride out this rough patch, sell the rubbish and then get some decent players.
It'll take time though...

Rubbish. Hodgson needs to go.

Could the squad be a lot better? Yes.

But there is easily enough quality in the team to be, at the least, up in the top six. Gerrard and Torres would walk into pretty much any side. Reina is probably the best keeper in the country. Meireles is looking a good buy. Kuyt is quality. Johnson, Agger, Skrtel, Maxi are all decent players. Even Lucas is looking a much better player than before.

The problem is Hodgson. He cannot get the team playing and makes utterly bizarre selections and deploys odd tactics.

Like many Liverpool fans, I was unconvinced by his appointment. His record does not stand up to that required to take the club forward and he has demonstrated that he is not up to the job.

There is enough material at the club to deliver much better results but Hodgson is not the man to do so.

 

[AuburnWarrior]

Liverpool's squad is rubbish!!! They only have two real Premiership players who could play in a top four team - Gerrard and Torres. If one or both of them have an off day then Liverpool are a very mediocre Premiership team at best.
Ngog, Babel, Lucas, I could go on but most of the Liverpool squad would struggle to get in the Wigan first team, let alone a top four/CL team.
RH had his work cut out from the start, the fans need to get behind him, ride out this rough patch, sell the rubbish and then get some decent players.
It'll take time though...

Rubbish. Hodgson needs to go.

Could the squad be a lot better? Yes.

But there is easily enough quality in the team to be, at the least, up in the top six. Gerrard and Torres would walk into pretty much any side. Reina is probably the best keeper in the country. Meireles is looking a good buy. Kuyt is quality. Johnson, Agger, Skrtel, Maxi are all decent players. Even Lucas is looking a much better player than before.

The problem is Hodgson. He cannot get the team playing and makes utterly bizarre selections and deploys odd tactics.

Like many Liverpool fans, I was unconvinced by his appointment. His record does not stand up to that required to take the club forward and he has demonstrated that he is not up to the job.

There is enough material at the club to deliver much better results but Hodgson is not the man to do so.

"Kuyt is quality. Johnson, Agger, Skrtel, Maxi are all decent players."

Really??? Kuyt runs around a lot but where's his end product??? A good player - yes but not a top PL/CL player.

Johnson - Glen Johnson??? Please!!! I could defend better than him and I'm rubbish. Far too often he lets the attacker onto the attacker's preferred foot and far too often he thinks his pace will bail him out. He's normally wrong.

Maxi. WAS a good player. Now he's just going through the motions.

I stand by my comment - too many mediocre players in the Liverpool squad. One major worry is that Gerrard is now the wrong side of 30. He's on the decline now just when Liverpool need him most.

Where are all the kids that Liverpool usually churn out??? I was hearing great things about the youth squad not three years ago and certain wonderkids in the academy. Have they failed to live up to expectation???