Hitting my Wedges longer, too Long

[spawn_ukuk]

I would DEFO still ask your Pro
There still must be slight technique flaw
As there isnt much difference, between, 135yds PW, and u flying the green with your 62deg wedge, 70yds to middle, and flying it by 20yds, must be roughly 100-110yds.......??
There must be 15 - 17 degrees loft difference between your PW ( 45-47...?? ) and your 62 Lob Wedge...?

So there SHOULD BE a much larger yardage gap between the 2 Wedges

I have to say though, the 62 deg Wedge is very EASY to go WRONG with, so hats off to you, trying to hit it that far
Me........Id be taking something Off my 54 deg Instead, or even my 50, as I hate pushing clubs to their Limits

70 plus 20 is about 90 yards to me,
so id say about 40 yrd difference from a PW from my 62
I generally do try to push the clubs too far

 

[garyinderry]

im of the thinking you should be hitting your irons FURTHER if you can put a 62 wedge out so far.


just try 3/4 swings to cut down how far your hitting. simplest way really. or you could work on picking a landing zone and trying to run the ball in rather than flying the ball over the green.

 

[moogie]

Tell u what I WOULD DO...........

If I was hitting PW 135, 9 iron 140, 8 iron 150...........Then I may have looked into getting my PW bent, and weakened 1 or 2 degrees, to Try and get a BETTER yardage Gap between these 3 clubs

JUST A THOUGHT..............

But ask your Pro 1st

 

[spawn_ukuk]

Tell u what I WOULD DO...........

If I was hitting PW 135, 9 iron 140, 8 iron 150...........Then I may have looked into getting my PW bent, and weakened 1 or 2 degrees, to Try and get a BETTER yardage Gap between these 3 clubs

JUST A THOUGHT..............

But ask your Pro 1st

i never hit a pw 135 before it was just the best wedge i ever hit that day
generally its 130
With about 10 yrds diff in my irons
Im really happy with how its going since i adjusted my swing

Im off to my local range, taking all my wedges with me
theres very clear yardage marks there too
QUESTION - il be using crappy range balls there, should that make the ball fly longer or shorter?

 

[moogie]

I was on my local course today and from a certain point on a hole i knew it is 70 yards to the middle of the green, i pulled out my 62 degree wedge . i know a full swing will get me there ive done a million times

Used my new swing for my wedge caught the ball perfectly and it flys 20 yards over the back of the green

I was hitting my PW 135 yards i dont know if thats long, but im struggling now with judgement of distances, i cant afford a range finger or gps

Any tips on how to judge distances?????

I was just working off YOUR 1st TEXT
70 yards to the MIDDLE of the Green
Now Im working on there being 10-20 yards to the BACK of the Green
And U FLEW IT 20 YARDS OVER THE *BACK* OF THE GREEN

70 + 10 + 20 = 100
70 + 20 + 20 = 110

Thats where I got MY figures from

 

[spawn_ukuk]

I was just working off YOUR 1st TEXT
70 yards to the MIDDLE of the Green
Now Im working on there being 10-20 yards to the BACK of the Green
And U FLEW IT 20 YARDS OVER THE *BACK* OF THE GREEN

70 + 10 + 20 = 100
70 + 20 + 20 = 110

Thats where I got MY figures from

Wasnt the longest Green in the world, but i get what you mean yes
id say it must have about 95 - 100 then

 

[spawn_ukuk]

Im off to my local range now, taking all my wedges with me
theres very clear yardage marks there too

QUESTION - il be using crappy range balls there, should that make the ball fly longer or shorter?

 

[Oddsocks]

They can be anything between 60-90% compression, best to ask the range staff what spec their balls are. As a rule I lose about 10-15 yards per iron at our range.

 

[garyinderry]

hard to answer. some folks around here said that their range balls are made in such a way that they dont fly as far as real balls due to small ranges and keeping the balls from going over the fence at the back.

the range i go to has srixon range balls and i find them dead on.


see what distances you can get your half swing, three quarter and full swings to go with each wedge. have a read at this thread about attacking pins. when your inside 130 yards you dont have to leather the ball to the hole. control is key to getting it close.

http://forums.golf-monthly.co.uk/showthread.php?36683-attacking-pins-with-the-wedge

 

[One Planer]

You'll generally see a slight distance drop off using range balls.

Back to the thread

You talk about distances through out the thread

was on my local course today and from a certain point on a hole i knew it is 70 yards to the middle of the green

i never hit a pw 135 before it was just the best wedge i ever hit that day
generally its 130

I hit my 8 iron 150

PW 130, Generally with a 9 140 Generally with a 8 150

PW 130, 9 140 8 150

You seem very, very sure of these distances. How did you measure these?

Could you not apply the same measuring system to th rest of your clubs?

 

[spawn_ukuk]

i still have to put power into it, but before it was more like a smash not concetrating on smooth flow
So i decided more tempo to my swing more controlled thats all
Sure we are cool

I got these yardages because i played a course that had many yardage markers , My local course i usuallly play on every week has no yardage markers and, and my ability to guess it right myself has just gone
With the increase in distance im getting now with my wedges,
I think investment in a laser range finder the best thing for me

 

[Andy]

I think investment in a laser range finder the best thing for me

Or a pair of glasses.

 

[SocketRocket]

Glad to know people read posts here
ive said a few times now i do deloft my wedges 8 and 9 slightly for a cleaner hit
i know what im hitting, i wanted advice on best way to judge distances with the the use of TECH
any suggestions please

Im not hitting crazy distances anyway, whats the problem

Your distance with a 62 wedge is crazy. I would have a problem thinning it that far. Lob wedges are designed to give a high ball flight and generally the faster you hit them the higher they go. 60 to 80 yards would be a good full out hit.

 

[spawn_ukuk]

OK people went to the range earlier, took all my wedges and the range balls are quite decent, staff told me you dont lose much distance.

62 Vokey wedge 95 - 100 yrds
SW 115 -120
PW 125 - 130
9i 135 - 140
8i 145 - 150

Went to the range, thats what im hitting
with those clubs i always slightly deloft for a good contact

 

[Oddsocks]

62 Vokey wedge 95 - 100 yrds
SW 115 -120
PW 125 - 130
9i 135 - 140
8i 145 - 150

the irons dont look overly long, but that 62* is freak power.

remember this is a scoring club and is meant to be used for precision shots, not to try and knock planes out the sky.

sounds to me like you need a short game lesson on percentage shots, you simply cannot hit everything at 110% and expect any type of accurate short game. thats not meant in an insulting way, its fact. you need to know round distances for half or 3/4 shots.

with your 62*, try the following

10 full swings, 10 3/4 swings and 10 1/2 swings (note distances)
then move half way down the grip and repeat
then move to the bottom of the grip and repeat,

this should in theory give you 9 distances with the same club,

 

[spawn_ukuk]

Ill try it
I to tend to put more effort into my 62
took me so long to get used to it, the half shots ive never been good at

 

[Oddsocks]

half shots are fine, just make sure you swing through and do not de-accelerate. as a drill shorten your backswing (distance control) but swing through to the top of your follow through as if it was a full shot... its almost duff/blade proof.

 

[Foxholer]

I have a mate who had a similar 'problem' - LW - 100yds but anything under that and he was knackered. Took quite a few sessions with a Pro to learn half and 3/4 shots but it's paid off - dropped 3 or more shots.

Dave Peltz preaches a method of finesse shots that can harness wedges for consistent distances - using a clock-face approach on the backswing and always finishing in the same high but not full finish. Normal wrist cock, but with arms horizontal on backswing is 9 o'clock (half swing) and higher 10:30 (3/4 swing). I never got on with the 7:30 one.

There's also the 9-to-3 half swing and the 10:30-to-1:30 3/4 swing approach.

Try them both and see which one you are most comfortable with - or even use a mixture.

Key is relaxed tempo rather than power, while still accelerating through hitting zone.

BTW. From memory, your irons are 'modern' lofts, so PW is a 9 iron in old money (so distances are not all that huge). You do seem to have quite a gap between 48* and 62" that could be worth filling (with 55*) or do you use SW for that. SW from deck can be tricky as they are designed with high bounce to prevent club digging in sand. High Bounce on tight fairways can lead to thins - or encourage de-lofting to prevent them. A specialist wedge with correct bounce could provide benefits (if bag has room).

Good Luck

PS: If still hitting a 62* 90yds with a half swing, try here: http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/

 

[Dreamer2]

Ive got it ,,,it was professor plum ,with the iron bar ,in the library hitting the ball into a cup ,,if your get my meaning

 

[spawn_ukuk]

Thanks for alll your inputs