Harriet Harman is off again

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Harriet Harperson? A total waste of space...

Not if she is giving voice to the point of view of a consituency with a grievance. What is she doing wrong?

Seems to be that for many, if a subject or concern is of no interest or doesn't affect them directly, then it doesn't matter and talking about it is a waste of time and self-indulgent.

 

[Birchy]

Not if she is giving voice to the point of view of a consituency with a grievance. What is she doing wrong?

Seems to be that for many, if a subject or concern is of no interest or doesn't affect them directly, then it doesn't matter and talking about it is a waste of time and self-indulgent.

The trouble is I bet theres a thousand more important issues than the womans tour de France that she could pipe up about but she has chose to pipe up about this because it suits her "Women are always discriminated against agenda".

Never mind the fact that barely anybody give a crap about watching a womans tour de France as previously proved when it was pulled. Women have a right to a tour de france if they want one, nobody is stopping them are they?

 

[Ethan]

But it doesn't matter!!

If she is promoting women's causes and giving them a voice (as she is) then I don't really care whether or not she is 'actually' doing it for herself. The cause and voice is heard - and THAT's what matter surely.

If you took that attitude then you would damn an MP for saying anything about anything as you'd accuse them of doing it for self-interest - as you seem to believe that HH (and it seems almost every MP) is solely driven by self-interest and that nothing else matters to her. I would rather be somewhat naive than as cynical as you.

It does matter if her self promotion deludes people into thinking that she gives a toss or would be a suitable leader of Labour once they stab Ed in the back.

The TDF is not a rights issue. If there is adequate commercial interest in having a race composed entirely of left handed ginger haired bespectacled lesbians, then one will be set up.

Harman is not stupid. She knows full well that this is a free shot at some publicity with no risk to her or Labour, and one she can revive next year when the TDF is in the UK, and an election is looming. It is utterly cynical, but not because she is a woman and it is a 'woman's rights issue', but because she is a politician and they should all be assumed to be self serving liars and crooks until proven otherwise. It also doesn't hurt that it is a poke at the French.

Cynicism has served me well in my dealings with local and national politicians of both genders and all major parties. I also know some Westminster insiders. The politicians and advisers are just as cynical, by the way. I wouldn't trust any of them as far as I could throw them.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

It does matter if her self promotion deludes people into thinking that she gives a toss or would be a suitable leader of Labour once they stab Ed in the back.

The TDF is not a rights issue. If there is adequate commercial interest in having a race composed entirely of left handed ginger haired bespectacled lesbians, then one will be set up.

Harman is not stupid. She knows full well that this is a free shot at some publicity with no risk to her or Labour, and one she can revive next year when the TDF is in the UK, and an election is looming. It is utterly cynical, but not because she is a woman and it is a 'woman's rights issue', but because she is a politician and they should all be assumed to be self serving liars and crooks until proven otherwise. It also doesn't hurt that it is a poke at the French.

Cynicism has served me well in my dealings with local and national politicians of both genders and all major parties. I also know some Westminster insiders. The politicians and advisers are just as cynical, by the way. I wouldn't trust any of them as far as I could throw them.

Well it seems like you are offering your services to go run the country and voice the legitimate concerns of others.

 

[SocketRocket]

Harriet Harman is a product of the Liberal Elette, someone who has lived a privileged life and has needed for nothing, never been hard up or had to hold down a real job yet seems to think she knows better than us how we should live our lives. She is not alone and this trait is to be found across the political spectrum. It is a particular trait with socialists and liberals though, they always think they are better equipped than us to spend our money and social engineer our society.

This Women's TDF issue is a smoke screen to get herself into the headlines, it's a 'non' issue and laughable that a politician needs to spend any of her valuable time on. If she really wants to crusade Women's rights then she would do better by helping them to understand that bringing up a family is a fantastic thing for them to do and of the greatest benefit to the welfare of their offspring. We dont need champions bleating on about paying more tax credits, family allowances and child care. We need Politicians that stop squeezing the pips out of working people and let them keep their wages so they can spend it themselves on what they want to without paying for the Scribes and Scribes of the Scribes (even unto the seventh generation) of the Public sector to administer.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

You really think HH needs to get herself into the headlines? Anyway the rest of your post suggests you're not that sympathetic to the views of HH or any of her colleagues, so she's never going to do or say anything that you will admit to agreeing with. And I'll note if it was a smokescreen then you wouldn't know who was raising the question - that 70,000 have signed a petition about.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Results are just in from the latest poll on the voting intentions of the contributors to the GM forum at the next election. And they are as follows in order of preference:-

1) UKIP
2) Conservative Party
3) BNP
4) National Front
5) Labour
6) Monster Raving Loony
7) The People's Front of Judea
8) Judean People's Front
9) Lib Dems

 

[User20205]

Results are just in from the latest poll on the voting intentions of the contributors to the GM forum at the next election. And they are as follows in order of preference:-

1) UKIP
2) Conservative Party
3) BNP
4) National Front
5) Labour
6) Monster Raving Loony
7) The People's Front of Judea
8) Lib Dems

where would you put yourself on there?

 

[Hacker Khan]

where would you put yourself on there?

I'm traditionally BNP, but I think they are becoming a bit soft on immigration, so next time I think I will go National Front.

 

[SocketRocket]

Results are just in from the latest poll on the voting intentions of the contributors to the GM forum at the next election. And they are as follows in order of preference:-

1) UKIP
2) Conservative Party
3) BNP
4) National Front
5) Labour
6) Monster Raving Loony
7) The People's Front of Judea
8) Judean People's Front
9) Lib Dems

Missed out mine. The Gengis Khan revival movement.

 

[SocketRocket]

You really think HH needs to get herself into the headlines? Anyway the rest of your post suggests you're not that sympathetic to the views of HH or any of her colleagues, so she's never going to do or say anything that you will admit to agreeing with. And I'll note if it was a smokescreen then you wouldn't know who was raising the question - that 70,000 have signed a petition about.

Headlines! Yes, I do think thats what she needs. Her type get off on it, its the opium of the loony left.

70K, a mere bagatelle of yogurt knitters with too much time on their hands.

 

[User20205]

I'm traditionally BNP, but I think they are becoming a bit soft on immigration, so next time I think I will go National Front.

:rofl:

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Results are just in from the latest poll on the voting intentions of the contributors to the GM forum at the next election. And they are as follows in order of preference:-

1) UKIP
2) Conservative Party
3) BNP
4) National Front
5) Labour
6) Monster Raving Loony
7) The People's Front of Judea
8) Judean People's Front
9) Lib Dems

I shall be kind to you and assume that the poll was held at a 'marketing day' somewhere near GM Towers.

 

[Sweep]

Results are just in from the latest poll on the voting intentions of the contributors to the GM forum at the next election. And they are as follows in order of preference:-

1) UKIP
2) Conservative Party
3) BNP
4) National Front
5) Labour
6) Monster Raving Loony
7) The People's Front of Judea
8) Judean People's Front
9) Lib Dems

You missed out the Daily Mail Alliance

 

[SocketRocket]

You missed out the Daily Mail Alliance

And the GM Scottish Front.

 

[Hacker Khan]

I shall be kind to you and assume that the poll was held at a 'marketing day' somewhere near GM Towers.

I did actually have the SNP in there at one stage. But I thought there's no way I could include it without offending someone and starting the English/Scottish thing off. Yet again. So I took it out. So yes, consider it an English biased list. But feel free to do a Scottish one.

 

[Hacker Khan]

You missed out the Daily Mail Alliance

UKIP is the political wing of The Daily Mail.

 

[USER1999]

The men's tdf is the one of the most watched spectator sport in the world.

70k wanting a women's race is next to no one. Heck, there are 60 odd million people in the uk, of whom roughly half must be female, and they aren't interested, clearly.

 

[Sweep]

UKIP is the political wing of The Daily Mail.

I knew I could get you to mention the Daily Mail again

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Headlines! Yes, I do think thats what she needs. Her type get off on it, its the opium of the loony left

So what? Your a golfer and your type get off nailing a drive down the middle or draining a long tricky putt. Doesn't harm anyone and it keeps you coming back - th eopium of the golfer.

Besides I though we were a little bit more grown up these days than casually and carelessly referring to the 'loony left' just because the likes of the DM perpetuate it for their own purposes - whether it is real or not. Also I think it is inappropriate to imply that a wish or cause supported by a petition of 70,000 and voiced by a left of centre politician is therefore 'loony'.