Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
You're given a name at birth. It's the one thing you always have. You are a legal entity and need to be identifiable as such. I am extremely suspicious of people who feel that being 'identified' is against their rights.
Three
Tour Rookie
So you always argue when you take a flight do you?
If I'm involved in an accident I want the authorities to be able to contact HID.
When I'm driving in Spain I have to have both my passport and driving licence on me. Do I feel like my human rights are being infringed? Don't be silly!
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
No but that is a different context. One is what you need to be identified for reasonable security reasons and also on a basic level that you can prove you are the person that paid for the flight. The other is when you are just going around your lawful business of kind of being alive...
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Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
Do you need government to legislate to make you carry round some form of ID to help you be identified if you have an accident. If that is such a pressing concern should you just not take it on yourself to do that without being made to?
Slime
Tour Winner
I really can't see an argument for not having ID cards.
It's as if there's something to hide
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It's as if there's something to hide
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SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
To show we are not Johnny Foreigner.
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
I really can't see an argument for not having ID cards.
It's as if there's something to hide
I will say again because it will be horrendously expensive to instigate and administer, open to forgery, I would argue redundant in the internet/surveillance world we now live in and there seems to be no big problem facing society today that it will solve. So all it seems to be based on is some ideological belief that, like countries such North Korea, Zimbabwe, Turkey and China, we need a national ID card.
We have passports, driving licenses and the PASS scheme to so why do we need more? To me it is not a human rights issue as such, I have my driving license in my wallet and I carry that around with me most of the time. But it is more of a pointless waste of time and resources to create another scheme. And making carrying one compulsory to me is not helping with any of the major security or societal challenges we have. If someone is intent on doing us harm then I'm not sure the fact that they have to carry their driving license will put them off.
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
And that is needed why???
Tarkus1212
Challenge Tour Pro
If you make it compulsory to carry your driving licence with you when you're driving then you've got the vast majority of adults covered.
😁😁👏👏 I love stories like that.
Slime
Tour Winner
Perhaps we should micro-chip every new born from now on .
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Perhaps we should micro-chip every new born from now on
How do you know they're not already doing that? 😨😨😱
Norrin Radd
Tour Winner
.Perhaps we should micro-chip every new born from now on
that to me is going to be happening very soon ,also have an in built tracker that can be checked to see where anyone has been let alone where they are now ,crime would be almost irradicated at a stroke as nobody would be able to say that they werent there at the time of a crime.
do nothing wrong and no worries
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Deleted member 15344
Guest
I hope I'm not around in a world like that - big brother monitoring every movement , sorry but no
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
I'd argue it will not be the vast majority. More young people in places like London are not bothering as they do not need one to get around. This shows that 63% have a driving licence https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1882997
I am more than sure that the stats are exactly not sound, but I imagine they are there or there abouts. So you can not have a scheme that only covers 60 to 70 percent of the population. You either do it for everyone or you don't, if not then no point doing it.
Tarkus1212
Challenge Tour Pro
Personally I don't see any point doing it anyway, those who want to break the law will equip themselves with fake ID's.
Slime
Tour Winner
Three
Tour Rookie
Nobody would monitor every movement. It would just be easy to trace people retrospectively when they're under investigation.
Just as they can do with mobile phone signals now, but better.
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