Wolf
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Completely agree, Poults has massively over achieved when comparing his natural talent to his peers, shows what mindset and hard work can do for you
Golf's Great Underachievers
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Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Victor Dubuisson........
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Are you judging Kaymer on the last couple of years alone ? Especially when he has suffered injuries as well - he has got a couple of top 10’s but he has had a dip - all golfers go through them but he is only 33 , his career isn’t over by any stretch.
He feels his form is on the up turn over the recent weeks so can certainly see him contending again over the next season .
Jacko_G
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I'm basing his form since his second major. It's been a downward spiral.
I hope you are right that he does contend again but his form suggests otherwise. Such a talented golfer it's a shame to see him fall so far.
For what it's worth all golfers talk up their form, however actions speak louder than words.
Spear-Chucker
Tour Rookie
Norman for me. Talent, intelligence, hunger and flair. If only more majors...
Oddly, I wonder about Tiger. One of the best records of all time, but what if? One of strongest mental games I’ve ever seen, could putt the lights out under pressure, scrambled like no one else and almost peerless iron play for years.
Never drove the ball great however, got caught up in chasing the navy Seal dream, bad women, injury, etc. etc. Nicklaus could have been a distant sight in the rear view mirror....
Oddly, I wonder about Tiger. One of the best records of all time, but what if? One of strongest mental games I’ve ever seen, could putt the lights out under pressure, scrambled like no one else and almost peerless iron play for years.
Never drove the ball great however, got caught up in chasing the navy Seal dream, bad women, injury, etc. etc. Nicklaus could have been a distant sight in the rear view mirror....
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Yep. After Seve, Ernie has been my favourite golfer. IMHO he probably more than anyone most affected by Tiger. Given his talent he should've won more majors.
I very nearly put him down. I saw an article about him a while ago. The gist was he basically wasn't that bothered about golf, he really wasn't. He could take it or leave it and was more interested in other things. Not sure you can be at the top of a sport with that attitude.
Hopefully he finds his love for the game again as he is exciting to watch.
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Moe Norman
Canary_Yellow
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I’d say he’s done very well for someone that can’t putt!
To be fair, I didn't say he couldn't putt but his putting has undoubtedly cost him more wins. It is the weakest part of his game by some degree. As I mentioned though, it is all relative.
Canary_Yellow
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I know you didn’t, I was questioning whether he has underachieved. Putting is a big part of the game, if you’re not very good at it but you’ve still won the masters, I’d say that’s not someone that’s underachieved.
So his career is just a couple of years is it? Xander (2nd in open) and Knox/Noren (Rolex winners) are of course going to be above him with a huge payday event, not quite sure your intended point?
Let's compare him to some of the biggest golfers in their 30s.
Rose, DJ, Sergio, JDay, Molinari - all have less majors than him. A few of which are definitely more talented
That's before you even consider his career alongside the likes of Monty, Westwood, Donald etc, again who you could suggest had more talent but couldn't get it over the line in a major.
Could it not be that he was a player that had his best years so far in his 20s, and like Sergio might have a 2nd coming later in his 30s?
Pin-seeker
Well-known member
No way as Poulter under achieved.
Talent wise I’d say he’s bang average compared to others on tour.
Talent wise I’d say he’s bang average compared to others on tour.
williamalex1
Money List Winner
Another vote for Adam Scott, a perfect swing, I think bringing in the putter anchoring rule kind of feked him up .
Jacko_G
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All ifs buts and maybes.
Fact is Kaymer has not really contended since he won his second major in 2014, that is 4 years now, not a couple. He was in contention/pole position, possibly Dubai but can't remember where he imploded and lost a 10 shot lead.
I'd love nothing better than for Kaymer to find form and win another major or four but his game isn't there at present.
Where did that natural talent and ability disappear to? Kaymer wasn't good, he was outstanding and ice cool to boot.
Jacko_G
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I'm surprised there have been no votes for Manassero yet.
Lost his card, failed to make the cut at Tour School.
Lost his card, failed to make the cut at Tour School.
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Eduardo Molinari
I always assumed he would do better than his brother, but never kicked on (injury?) like Frankie has done.
I always assumed he would do better than his brother, but never kicked on (injury?) like Frankie has done.
ExRabbit
Club Champion
Good shout right there!
Dan2501
Tour Winner
Have the Anthony Kim rumours in regards to an insurance payout ever been confirmed by AK himself, or is it a matter of the internet making something up and it sticking?
Oh, you want to go facts only? Perfect.
No golfer in their 30s has won more majors than Kaymer.
Not DJ, Rose, Moli, Sergio, Scott, JDay etc. All of those players aren't just good, they're all outstanding and a couple of them generational talents. And yet all are less successful by the yardstick we ultimately measure a golfing career by.
Golf's 'great underachiever' (your words) is someone bang in the middle of his career with more success to date than nearly all of his peers.
