Golf Random Irritations

[harpo_72]

I was intending to play today, weather was good but I was feeling a bit sore Saturday night. So I skipped it today, it was a competition as well. The whole thought of picking the ball up and putting it down had my knees aching… I was thinking I would use the trolley to help but we have so many roped off walk ways and using a fairway mat makes it a complete phaff .. so a boring day prepping for back to school

 

[cliveb]

Our club did. Work on the new 3rd comp tee was halted in January due to unstable ground conditions. Will restart once the ground has dried up. If they had ploughed on just because it was scheduled, £150,000 would have been completely wasted and they would have to pay again for the work.

Are you saying that building a new teeing area was going to cost 150 grand? Is it the size of a football pitch?

 

[GreiginFife]

Are you saying that building a new teeing area was going to cost 150 grand? Is it the size of a football pitch?

Don’t be absurd. The position, structure, height and location on the course all have played a part. Which also includes a massive retaining structure to stop trees potentially falling on it.

 

[Crazyface]

What’s the weather been like?

If you are implying that the poor little lambs might get wet if they actually go outside, then I'll tell you about the MASSIVE piles of logs we now have scattered all over the course due to them concentrating on that rarther than doing some work that would improve the course! But as you know, if you have seen my posts elsewhere, I'm off to a place who's GK seem to be improving the course where they can. A simple job of levelling a tee is a two day job for a GK, (one day for me, coz I've done it an my lawn). A machine to turn the turf over (day one). Then a rake and spirit level (day two). This can be done in the rain.

 

[Crazyface]

Money!
The price of materials is eye watering now.

MONEY!!!? See previous post. No money required.

 

[Crazyface]

What’s the ground like

Ever seen the mess made by diggers on very wet ground

Diggers? Just how big are your teeing areas!?

 

[Arthur Wedge]

If you are implying that the poor little lambs might get wet if they actually go outside, then I'll tell you about the MASSIVE piles of logs we now have scattered all over the course due to them concentrating on that rarther than doing some work that would improve the course! But as you know, if you have seen my posts elsewhere, I'm off to a place who's GK seem to be improving the course where they can. A simple job of levelling a tee is a two day job for a GK, (one day for me, coz I've done it an my lawn). A machine to turn the turf over (day one). Then a rake and spirit level (day two). This can be done in the rain.

He is implying that the ground conditions are not ideal right now for doing much heavy machine work and building tees etc

Far from a “simple two day job”

 

[GreiginFife]

If you are implying that the poor little lambs might get wet if they actually go outside, then I'll tell you about the MASSIVE piles of logs we now have scattered all over the course due to them concentrating on that rarther than doing some work that would improve the course! But as you know, if you have seen my posts elsewhere, I'm off to a place who's GK seem to be improving the course where they can. A simple job of levelling a tee is a two day job for a GK, (one day for me, coz I've done it an my lawn). A machine to turn the turf over (day one). Then a rake and spirit level (day two). This can be done in the rain.

I’m surprised you didn’t just take over the Green Keeping, you seem to have expertise beyond anyone else in any discipline based on your litany of posts explaining how people do things wrong and you’d know better.

 

[PaulMdj]

If you are implying that the poor little lambs might get wet if they actually go outside, then I'll tell you about the MASSIVE piles of logs we now have scattered all over the course due to them concentrating on that rarther than doing some work that would improve the course! But as you know, if you have seen my posts elsewhere, I'm off to a place who's GK seem to be improving the course where they can. A simple job of levelling a tee is a two day job for a GK, (one day for me, coz I've done it an my lawn). A machine to turn the turf over (day one). Then a rake and spirit level (day two). This can be done in the rain.

Just an update for you with facts:

We get a greenkeepers report every month, the full schedule of works for the winter was published in Nov.

Schedule showed 4 Tee Boxes to be levelled and re-turfed, amongst other jobs.

Last week we got the latest update, below I have copy and pasted part of it:

“Our winter workplan has hit a slight snagging problem at the moment, as the turf required to complete our projects is proving extremely difficult to get a hold of. Turf nurseries all around the country are currently too wet to get the machines on that lift the turf, so again we are at the mercy of the weather. Our workplan still remains on target however, and we are receiving regular updates from turf suppliers, so as soon as an opportunity arises we will be ready.”

So as you can read the realities hitting Greenkeepers is beyond their control.

Ours are superb and the improvements are continuing all the time.

 

[GreiginFife]

Just an update for you with facts:

We get a greenkeepers report every month, the full schedule of works for the winter was published in Nov.

Schedule showed 4 Tee Boxes to be levelled and re-turfed, amongst other jobs.

Last week we got the latest update, below I have copy and pasted part of it:

“Our winter workplan has hit a slight snagging problem at the moment, as the turf required to complete our projects is proving extremely difficult to get a hold of. Turf nurseries all around the country are currently too wet to get the machines on that lift the turf, so again we are at the mercy of the weather. Our workplan still remains on target however, and we are receiving regular updates from turf suppliers, so as soon as an opportunity arises we will be ready.”

So as you can read the realities hitting Greenkeepers is beyond their control.

Ours are superb and the improvements are continuing all the time.

He obviously doesn’t understand the concept of waterlogging.

Yeah, you can turf in the rain and no one has said otherwise. But to demand a club try to tackle a groundworking on saturated ground (even if turf is available) then you know it must be a parody account.

 

[PaulMdj]

He obviously doesn’t understand the concept of waterlogging.

Yeah, you can turf in the rain and no one has said otherwise. But to demand a club try to tackle a groundworking on saturated ground (even if turf is available) then you know it must be a parody account.

Exactly, all helps to consider the rest of the Country as well.

 

[Neilds]

We get a weekly course update which details what work has been done in the preceding week and also what is planned over the next few weeks. It also explains why certain work wasn’t done due to weather, etc. If no outdoor work has been possible, then the staff work on the machinery, servicing and sharpening blades etc. Over the autumn/ winter they have built 2 new white tee areas, stripped and turfed another, done loads of tree cutting (150 new trees going in over next month or so), cleared ditches, new bunkers and loads of other stuff. Work doesn’t/shouldn’t stop over winter, the staff just need to do the right jobs at the right time. Keeping members informed is paramount so you don’t get some of the nonsense that is spouted on here.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Massively agree with the above post regarding keeping members informed. It really isn't hard to do, keeps members happy, reduces moans and groans. I'm sure that most grumbles are because members don't know what is going on.

 

[GreiginFife]

Massively agree with the above post regarding keeping members informed. It really isn't hard to do, keeps members happy, reduces moans and groans. I'm sure that most grumbles are because members don't know what is going on.

Or in some cases because they believe they know better.

 

[cliveb]

Don’t be absurd. The position, structure, height and location on the course all have played a part. Which also includes a massive retaining structure to stop trees potentially falling on it.

Ah right. So the majority of the work is superstructure to accommodate and protect the teeing area? My club certainly wouldn't have the funds for such a large scale development.

 

[GreiginFife]

Ah right. So the majority of the work is superstructure to accommodate and protect the teeing area? My club certainly wouldn't have the funds for such a large scale development.

As far as I know, it’s been planned for years. It became more imperative after the storms of the last three winters.

 

[IanM]

I saw the head green keeper during the week. I asked him how he was. He said he'd gone from "tearing his hair out" to a "zen state of calm" as he is comfortable that he's done all he can reasonably do, given the conditions.

Too many golfers bang on about what "ought to be done" without having a blooming clue what thet are talking about.

 

[Swango1980]

I saw the head green keeper during the week. I asked him how he was. He said he'd gone from "tearing his hair out" to a "zen state of calm" as he is comfortable that he's done all he can reasonably do, given the conditions.

Too many golfers bang on about what "ought to be done" without having a blooming clue what thet are talking about.

Golfers love a good moan. It is why the Golf Monthly forums are so popular

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Or in some cases because they believe they know better.

As I always say - a golf club seems to have 400 plus greenkeepers , a couple hundred GM’s and also bar staff etc etc

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Or in some cases because they believe they know better.

Absolutely, but informing members when and why something is being done, and why some things are not being done, tends to nullify the know-it-alls.