Golf Random Irritations

[Lord Tyrion]

I don't understand this comment.

If a club's membership decides that they want their course to be a walking course, that's great. Arthur said they have provisions in place for people who need a buggy.

Walking is an integral part of the game. Tiger would still be on Tour if he could use a buggy.

I'm not going to go back and forth again on this, it's been covered already, but I said it was miserable as to exclude people from playing a hobby because of physical reasons is very much miserable and exclusive imo.

A pro not being able to use a buggy is a very different thing, there is money at stake and any edge can make a difference. For an amateur sport, a hobby, to be so severe, that's absolutely miserable to me. I see nothing 'great' about it

 

[sunshine]

I'm not going to go back and forth again on this, it's been covered already, but I said it was miserable as to exclude people from playing a hobby because of physical reasons is very much miserable and exclusive imo.

A pro not being able to use a buggy is a very different thing, there is money at stake and any edge can make a difference. For an amateur sport, a hobby, to be so severe, that's absolutely miserable to me. I see nothing 'great' about it

Can I also get a buggy on the football pitch to take me up and down the wing? I tore my achilles a few years ago so can't run as fast now, but I can still kick the ball and even manage some step overs

The walk is an integral part of golf. On most courses there is no reason for buggies, unless a person has a disability.

Golf is a good walk spoiled. People who want to drive around a little concrete track should try go-karting

 

[PaulMdj]

Can I also get a buggy on the football pitch to take me up and down the wing? I tore my achilles a few years ago so can't run as fast now, but I can still kick the ball and even manage some step overs

The walk is an integral part of golf. On most courses there is no reason for buggies, unless a person has a disability.

Golf is a good walk spoiled. People who want to drive around a little concrete track should try go-karting

We’re in the 21st Century now.

 

[sunshine]

We’re in the 21st Century now.

21st Century = legs not required?

It's funny how professional golfers are getting fitter and stronger, yet recreational golfers it's going the other way as they become more sedentary.

 

[PaulMdj]

21st Century = legs not required?

It's funny how professional golfers are getting fitter and stronger, yet recreational golfers it's going the other way as they become more sedentary.

It’s not about fitness!

What about the Courses around the World were you must use a buggy?

Or what’s the difference between lads using a buggy on holiday, in say Turkey, then wanting to use one for a social round back at their home course?

Or a person taking a non-golfing friend with them…

Absolute hundreds of reasons why a Golfer may wish to use a buggy.

 

[Orikoru]

It’s not about fitness!

What about the Courses around the World were you must use a buggy?

Or what’s the difference between lads using a buggy on holiday, in say Turkey, then wanting to use one for a social round back at their home course?

Or a person taking a non-golfing friend with them…

Absolute hundreds of reasons why a Golfer may wish to use a buggy.

That's because they're too drunk to walk.

 

[sunshine]

It’s not about fitness!

What about the Courses around the World were you must use a buggy?

Or what’s the difference between lads using a buggy on holiday, in say Turkey, then wanting to use one for a social round back at their home course?

Or a person taking a non-golfing friend with them…

Absolute hundreds of reasons why a Golfer may wish to use a buggy.

Let's differentiate between those who need a buggy to play for valid medical reasons, and those who choose to use a buggy. It's true that some resort courses are spread over a large area with significant gaps between holes, but that is not normal, and not really a UK thing.

For most people, on most courses, there is zero need for a buggy. Is it just popular due to the influence of people behaving like idiots on social media?

 

[PaulMdj]

Let's differentiate between those who need a buggy to play for valid medical reasons, and those who choose to use a buggy. It's true that some resort courses are spread over a large area with significant gaps between holes, but that is not normal, and not really a UK thing.

For most people, on most courses, there is zero need for a buggy. Is it just popular due to the influence of people behaving like idiots on social media?

It’s nothing to do with social media, buggies have been available for decades.

Maybe we should insist on caddies and go back to feathered balls.

Times have moved on and buggies are just another tool to allow people to enjoy their golf in the way they want.

 

[Steve Wilkes]

It’s nothing to do with social media, buggies have been available for decades.

Maybe we should insist on caddies and go back to feathered balls.

Times have moved on and buggies are just another tool to allow people to enjoy their golf in the way they want.

When the weather and course condition permits

 

[PaulMdj]

When the weather and course condition permits

100%. Lot’s of restriction on buggy use for the right reasons, but banning them just because Joe Bloggs thinks someone if fit able and should be walking is daft.

 

[sunshine]

It’s nothing to do with social media, buggies have been available for decades.

Maybe we should insist on caddies and go back to feathered balls.

Times have moved on and buggies are just another tool to allow people to enjoy their golf in the way they want.

Ok, but how does a buggy make golf enjoyable? What’s the benefit?

(Again, I’m not referring to people who need a buggy)

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

Ok, but how does a buggy make golf enjoyable? What’s the benefit?

(Again, I’m not referring to people who need a buggy)

How does walking make it enjoyable? How does whacking a little white ball even seem enjoyable to many.

What people seek enjoyment in is personal you don’t see it that they enjoy playing in a buggy , they might see it they don’t get why you like walking whilst doing it.

It is all personal preference but it’s still golf the definition of the game as per a quick google is: “Golf is a club-and-ball sport where players hit a small ball into a series of holes on a course, aiming to complete the course using the fewest possible strokes”

Doesn’t mention it has to be a walking sport. End of the day people enjoy it the way they choose surely what matters is more people are playing the game now for enjoyment instead of it being stuck in past and seen as elitist

 

[D-S]

Ok, but how does a buggy make golf enjoyable? What’s the benefit?

(Again, I’m not referring to people who need a buggy)

On days when it is incredibly hot or on courses which are extremely long due to walks between greens and tees or on courses that are very hilly, it makes the game less physically taxing for some people which makes their enjoyment of the round, especially the last few holes, far greater.
As you have pointed out there are many courses around the world which are virtually impossible to walk (Aphrodite Hills in Cyprus springs to mind where there is a sign on the path near a green saying next tee 1.4km), I can think of many other examples. This clearly shows that walking is not an integral part of the game otherwise on such courses you would not be playing the same game.

 

[sunshine]

How does walking make it enjoyable? How does whacking a little white ball even seem enjoyable to many.

What people seek enjoyment in is personal you don’t see it that they enjoy playing in a buggy , they might see it they don’t get why you like walking whilst doing it.

It is all personal preference but it’s still golf the definition of the game as per a quick google is: “Golf is a club-and-ball sport where players hit a small ball into a series of holes on a course, aiming to complete the course using the fewest possible strokes”

Doesn’t mention it has to be a walking sport. End of the day people enjoy it the way they choose surely what matters is more people are playing the game now for enjoyment instead of it being stuck in past and seen as elitist

You’ve not even tried to answer my question, just thrown it back at me. Are you my wife?

Loads of people enjoy going for walks. Playing golf is a lovely walk in the woods, stroll in the park, or a coastal walk, with the added bonus of hitting a ball.

What’s enjoyable about driving a buggy? Speed and handling are pretty poor, they are just awkward and restrict where you can go.

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

You’ve not even tried to answer my question, just thrown it back at me. Are you my wife?

Loads of people enjoy going for walks. Playing golf is a lovely walk in the woods, stroll in the park, or a coastal walk, with the added bonus of hitting a ball.

What’s enjoyable about driving a buggy? Speed and handling are pretty poor, they are just awkward and restrict where you can go.

There’s no question to answer ! It’s enjoyable they still get to play golf and probably do it in less time.

What’s enjoyable about driving a car! I find that incredibly boring 90% of the time. I enjoy a walk as does my wife, I know lots of people that hate it and see it as dull. My point stands it doesn’t matter that you don’t see it as long as those doing so get enjoyment.

 

[Imurg]

Maybe it's just that some people want to use a buggy...?

There's many, many courses where you don't need a trolley, let alone an electric one or, worse still, a remote one but here we are....

 

[sunshine]

On days when it is incredibly hot or on courses which are extremely long due to walks between greens and tees or on courses that are very hilly, it makes the game less physically taxing for some people which makes their enjoyment of the round, especially the last few holes, far greater.
As you have pointed out there are many courses around the world which are virtually impossible to walk (Aphrodite Hills in Cyprus springs to mind where there is a sign on the path near a green saying next tee 1.4km), I can think of many other examples. This clearly shows that walking is not an integral part of the game otherwise on such courses you would not be playing the same game.

1.4km to the next tee probably falls into “need a buggy” category. These are exceptions, the vast majority of courses around the world do not fit in this category.

 

[clubchamp98]

My course isn’t really suited to buggies.
We only have six.
They do damage the end of the paths and make them muddy.
It’s more the side slopes that makes it quite dangerous.

But I think if someone wants to use one that’s fine.
I walk and I don’t like buggies.

They detach you from the course and many a time in the US I can’t remember half the holes played that day.
I’m always cold in a buggy.

But live and let live , if you want one no problem if conditions allow.

A lot of the moans come when conditions don’t allow and “ your stopping me playing “ can be heard.
Nobody’s stopping you playing you just can’t use a buggy
Common sense or lack of in some people

 

[D-S]

1.4km to the next tee probably falls into “need a buggy” category. These are exceptions, the vast majority of courses around the world do not fit in this category.

I have played a lot of courses around the world and a significant proportion of them are what would be termed as buggy courses a lot of the are definitively buggy/cart only, this is very often due to the fact that the sale and management of the housing that surround the course is often the key reason for building the course in the first place, so routings are often winding through real estate. Coupled with the fact that the heat and humidity in many countries mean that walking is extremely debilitating.
Thinking about this all the courses we played in California, Naples Florida and Oman in the past year or so were buggy only. Carts were always part of the green fee.

 

[GreiginFife]

Certainly wouldn’t play the West at La Manga without a buggy again…