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I have carried for 18 but these days my body objects quite forcefully..
And atthe moment even carrying for 9 is a trial due to my heel issue..
So when the trolley bans come in it'll be 9 only for the moment
Trolley ban today - no surprise there - but anyone out there playing today is 100% certifiable and should be kept a close eye on....
They're mental!
And I bet there's so e up at the club right now.....
 
AussieKB said:
When I first went to England I had a trolley.....with a big bag.....soon had a carry bag, used to play Open's every weekend in summer, 36 holes Saturday and Sunday, now back in OZ I use a cart most times, as do most people my age and even younger.

Club's make more money from hiring out cart's, it is the way golf is going over here.

We are lucky to have good weather 11 month's of the year minimum, very rare for cart's to be banned.
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See a lot of younger players, 20s I'd say, in buggies. I think some of it may be from them watching YouTube golfers in buggies all the time, get out and walk if you're able to do so.
 
Arthur Wedge said:
It might be less effort to use a trolley and then at some occasions carrying an extra club outside the rope than carrying a set of clubs and bag
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Honestly, once the ropes come out it's obviously a bit muddy and I find it easier carrying and thus being able to walk straight to my ball and straight to the next tee rather than have to push my way round the back of the bunkers etc. Sometimes I'll even reduce weight by taking a couple of irons and a wedge out or something.
 
jim8flog said:
I would agree with hedge hog wheels being worse the standard wheels for course damage

as well as creating really poor lies when a ball comes to rest in a hole made by one.
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Hedgehog wheels are used when preferred lies are in use so you just move the ball

And in the whole time we have been using them I haven’t once seen a ball come to rest in one of the indents

Are little holes worse than skid marks , or tractor marks

What about the damage compacting the soil has from non winter wheels ?

What about during frost days when the flat wheels have full contact on the turn

Hedgehog wheels reduce the contact on the turf and also they don’t compact the turf
 
jim8flog said:
Troubles with that comment.

When first joined this club there were less than 400 members, a lot of them did not play in winter, a lot carried and very few had an electric trolley. When I first went to a buggy 30years ago I was one of only 5 who had one and only one of those had a full size two seater buggy and there were no hire buggies to hire. Trolleys were even banned in winter

These days we have over 800 members, there are around 40 members with their own buggy and we have a fleet of about 15 buggies to hire. The majority who walk have an electric trolley amd relatively few no longer play in winter with the availability of much better waterproof clothing.

Wear to the course in winter is so much more obvious compared to even a decade ago.
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This is a really insightful post. I've not played winter golf or club golf long enough to know what it was like 20 or 30 years ago. What do you think has driven the increase in personal buggy use from 1.25% of membership to 5%?

At my club, all the juniors seem to have big tour bags and electric trolleys. I think there is a culture now where anyone new to the game assumes they need a big bag and an electric trolley, or even a buggy (that bit is definitely US influence). The idea of carrying your own bag is an alien concept.

Maybe if buggies were limited to people who really did need them, the numbers would be so low it probably wouldn't be an issue. Same goes for trolleys.
 
sunshine said:
This is a really insightful post. I've not played winter golf or club golf long enough to know what it was like 20 or 30 years ago. What do you think has driven the increase in personal buggy use from 1.25% of membership to 5%?

At my club, all the juniors seem to have big tour bags and electric trolleys. I think there is a culture now where anyone new to the game assumes they need a big bag and an electric trolley, or even a buggy (that bit is definitely US influence). The idea of carrying your own bag is an alien concept.

Maybe if buggies were limited to people who really did need them, the numbers would be so low it probably wouldn't be an issue. Same goes for trolleys.
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The law has changed quite a lot and if you discriminate against a buggy driver you could be sued.
 
sunshine said:
At my club, all the juniors seem to have big tour bags and electric trolleys. I think there is a culture now where anyone new to the game assumes they need a big bag and an electric trolley, or even a buggy (that bit is definitely US influence). The idea of carrying your own bag is an alien concept.
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A few years ago I was talking to someone who ran a junior team at a club. All of the team players had electric trolleys, their own, not provided. The thinking was that it kept them fresh, shoulders not tiring etc, in the final few holes in a round. Marginal gains.....
 
sunshine said:
This is a really insightful post. I've not played winter golf or club golf long enough to know what it was like 20 or 30 years ago. What do you think has driven the increase in personal buggy use from 1.25% of membership to 5%?

At my club, all the juniors seem to have big tour bags and electric trolleys. I think there is a culture now where anyone new to the game assumes they need a big bag and an electric trolley, or even a buggy (that bit is definitely US influence). The idea of carrying your own bag is an alien concept.

Maybe if buggies were limited to people who really did need them, the numbers would be so low it probably wouldn't be an issue. Same goes for trolleys.
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The only people that are allowed to use buggies at our place are those with medical certificates, that’s the same for anyone that wants to hire one

There are more single seater users etc and it’s helped people play golf longer


When it comes to resort courses it comes down to two things - it’s part of the fun for some , it’s easier to get around and some people are just lazy
 
Arthur Wedge said:
Hedgehog wheels are used when preferred lies are in use so you just move the ball

And in the whole time we have been using them I haven’t once seen a ball come to rest in one of the indents

Are little holes worse than skid marks , or tractor marks

What about the damage compacting the soil has from non winter wheels ?

What about during frost days when the flat wheels have full contact on the turn

Hedgehog wheels reduce the contact on the turf and also they don’t compact the turf
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There is no lift etc on uncut grass so the ball cannot be moved

Maybe it is different course conditions, my mate had one and you could see everywhere he had been.

They are a very rare sight where I play but have seen a few of the Powakaddy winter wheels so really had to see the difference in damage between these and standard wheels.
 
jim8flog said:
There is no lift etc on uncut grass so the ball cannot be moved

Maybe it is different course conditions, my mate had one and you could see everywhere he had been.

They are a very rare sight where I play but have seen a few of the Powakaddy winter wheels so really had to see the difference in damage between these and standard wheels.
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Those wheels touch the surface less than a standard wheel so how can they make more damage ?

Not once I have ever seen anyone go into a hedgehog wheel indent in the rough
 
sunshine said:
This is a really insightful post. I've not played winter golf or club golf long enough to know what it was like 20 or 30 years ago. What do you think has driven the increase in personal buggy use from 1.25% of membership to 5%?

At my club, all the juniors seem to have big tour bags and electric trolleys. I think there is a culture now where anyone new to the game assumes they need a big bag and an electric trolley, or even a buggy (that bit is definitely US influence). The idea of carrying your own bag is an alien concept.

Maybe if buggies were limited to people who really did need them, the numbers would be so low it probably wouldn't be an issue. Same goes for trolleys.
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Personal buggy use has probably increased due to relative cost of one
When I bought my first one in the 1990s it cost £2200, I bought a new one 2 years ago and it cost £2800.
The (rubbish ) Chinese ones are less than £1000.
Many clubs now recognising more players have them and so clubs provide storage areas where there was none

People living longer and wanting to carry on playing for longer than players 30-40 years ago.

Biggest downside is that up until 5 years ago we never had buggy bans but they are common now and the club refuses to distinguish between the large 2 seater buggies and the single seater buggies which damage the course a lot less than the greenkeepers vehicles.
 
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