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Can you imagine the outrage if Corbyn had promised a billion to Scotland to do a deal.
 
Short term desperate measures to do anything to keep the Tories in power, not worrying about the long term impact of driving our nation even further apart and even more division. You would have hoped to see some sort of ideological compromise and coalition, some way of working out the best way to go forwards for all. Not just a billion pound bung to one of the countries to keep them sweet, price of everything but the value of nothing. Not like the Tories to do that is it.... :whistle:
 
I've witnessed plenty of DUP decisions in my time. I know what to expect.

And things will never move forward whilst there are people on both sides of the divide who are set in their ways. You may well be right but who would ever have thought they'd see the day when Ian Paisley and Martin McGuinness would sit across the table from each other.
 
And things will never move forward whilst there are people on both sides of the divide who are set in their ways. You may well be right but who would ever have thought they'd see the day when Ian Paisley and Martin McGuinness would sit across the table from each other.

Agreed, and Paisley is seen by many DUP supporters as a turncoat and an enemy of Northern Ireland because of it.
 
That works out at an additional £800 extra per person in NI......some bribe.
Tories say it is 'outside' of the Barnett agreement so Wales and Scotland get zilch.

I am pretty sure that the Scottish and Welsh voters who switched to Tory at the election will be going homeward to think again.

For many voters this agreement will hang about like a bad smell for the next 50 years.
 
Well looking on the bright side at least austerity is over in one of the 4 countries in the United Kingdom, or Kingdom as it will probably be known as soon the way it is going.
 
I think it's time that everyone calmed down re NI having a Billion quid sent over in Brown envelopes. If it helps you sleep, just imagine that it is only one Billion of the Billions that this and Labour Governments have robbed from Tashyboys Mineworkers pension fund. 👍😠
Not cost Joe public a penny then. Sorted.
 
Well looking on the bright side at least austerity is over in one of the 4 countries in the United Kingdom, or Kingdom as it will probably be known as soon the way it is going.
Austerity! what austerity is that then? Surely we are not in austerity if we are still borrowing so that we can spend more than we earn.
 
Short term desperate measures to do anything to keep the Tories in power, not worrying about the long term impact of driving our nation even further apart and even more division. You would have hoped to see some sort of ideological compromise and coalition, some way of working out the best way to go forwards for all. Not just a billion pound bung to one of the countries to keep them sweet, price of everything but the value of nothing. Not like the Tories to do that is it.... :whistle:

So Labour wouldn't have given a penny to the Scots for Nicola Sturgeon's support? She wouldn't have given that for nothing.
 
Labour would not have had to give any money.
The SNP was already committed to working in an anti Tory progressive alliance for the good of the country.

Turn this around and imagine what your thoughts would be if Corbyn had done the same DUP deal as May to gain power.

OOPS talking to myself again :whistle:, should have been an edit to last post.
 
So Labour wouldn't have given a penny to the Scots for Nicola Sturgeon's support? She wouldn't have given that for nothing.

And if my auntie had a ....... but she hasn't. It is purely hypothetical, I have no idea what kind of deal would have been done but I am sure there would have been some kind of compromise. Look, I actually quite like coalitions, I like it when parties have to work together to find some common ground as I feel collaboration and compromise at times is a good thing to do in politics instead of forging ahead with increasingly right or left wing agendas. I quite liked the way the lib dems kept the conservatives in check and a bit more honest when they were together.

However this is purely a cash for votes agreement, the Tories are giving the middle finger to all the nurses, teachers and public service workers who have seen their wages stagnate in the name of austerity. But suddenly there's a billion quid to throw at the DUP just to get 10 votes. And that's without taking into account the consequences for the NI peace agreement or the rather questionable stance some of the DUP members have on a few issues such as creationism and homosexuality. May be the DUP will ensure the tories do not go full hard Brexit, full privatisation of the NHS, full slashing of the welfare state and fair play to the DUP for negotiating it. But the way they literally came out of the negotiations and then stated as bold as brass 'we did this because they gave us a billion quid' kind of makes your heart sink.
 
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