Ge 2017

Anyone see Fallon get done over by Channel 4 news?

He was given a quote about how our foreign policy had led to a rise in terrorism, he immediately launches a tirade of abuse at Corbyn and how he is wrong, to then be told the quote was from Boris Johnson, didn't know what to say and says he needs to see it before believing it, so newsreader repeats quote and Fallon starts mumbling and is lost for words before muttering "he's wrong"
 
Anyone see Fallon get done over by Channel 4 news?

He was given a quote about how our foreign policy had led to a rise in terrorism, he immediately launches a tirade of abuse at Corbyn and how he is wrong, to then be told the quote was from Boris Johnson, didn't know what to say and says he needs to see it before believing it, so newsreader repeats quote and Fallon starts mumbling and is lost for words before muttering "he's wrong"

Thought Fallon was their go to guy whenever there's a damage limitation job to do within govt too, supposed to be solid. Guess they're all feeling the pressure.
 
Anyone see Fallon get done over by Channel 4 news?

He was given a quote about how our foreign policy had led to a rise in terrorism, he immediately launches a tirade of abuse at Corbyn and how he is wrong, to then be told the quote was from Boris Johnson, didn't know what to say and says he needs to see it before believing it, so newsreader repeats quote and Fallon starts mumbling and is lost for words before muttering "he's wrong"

Total embarrassment that lays bare a complete lack of integrity. Tory policy at the moment is basically "not corbyn". Polls starting to suggest that isn't going to be good enough...
 
Does anyone care to speculate if a 43% to 38% vote share Con/Lab is likely to get May a bigger majority than she already has or even a majority at all? All depends on marginals I expect?
Cameron got a small majority from a 36.9% vote share last time but Labour only had 30.4% so a 6.5% lead between the 2, only a 5% poll lead currently.

SNP will lose about half a dozen seats to the new Scottish Labortory party.
LibDems will not get many seats for their expected 15% of votes.

All depends on the London and North of England Labour seats.
Boundary changes favour the Tories [of course]

I think it will be very close with a small majority and a total disaster for the Tories.
 
Andrew Neil is doing a great job of demolishing Corbyn. Corbyn is dodging and weaving like a punch drunk boxer but his reluctance to give honest answers to direct questions is laying bare so many of his questionable beliefs.

We must have watched a different interview. He answered every question put to him, on about three occasions they were the same answers to the same questions. I was waiting for a 'have you now or ever been a member of the Communist Party' question.:whistle: [for the old guys on here]

May on the other hand absolutely did not answer about three questions.
Different folks/different strokes.

Whatever side you are on Neil is an obnoxious oaf who is well past his sell by. I keep thinking he interviews like a sleazy Sun journalist.

Peston is the new kid on the block.
 
but I think that part of the point is that it would at least be HER majority, not something she inherited and would kill off those who say that she didnt have her own mandate.

Assuming she gets it of course

I'm not taking anything for granted re the polls

Naw, she thought she would pull a fast one and get a massive majority to go into Brexit.
It has totally backfired on her.

The idiots who came up with the 'strong and stable' mantra [probably the Ossie guys] were totally out of touch.
Brits don't like folk who boast.
 
Naw, she thought she would pull a fast one and get a massive majority to go into Brexit.
It has totally backfired on her.

The idiots who came up with the 'strong and stable' mantra [probably the Ossie guys] were totally out of touch.
Brits don't like folk who boast.

Whatever
Spin it the way you want,

She was criticised for her inherited mandate, you cannot deny that.

At least that particular elephant is going to leave the room .
 
Is Corbyn's stance on how to deal with terror groups abroad isolationist? Could it lead to the UK being marginalised on the international stage?

If IS had been left to run free across the Middle East and North Africa what would the map of the world look like? How many citizens from those countries would have been murdered, and how many of them would have been drafted into an IS army?

And then there loss of access to the oilfields in the Middle East and North Africa.

I agree with Corbyn in that the ambition must be for peace and stability but sometimes you actually have to fight for peace. Most wars need a victor and a loser for the world to move on.
 
Is Corbyn's stance on how to deal with terror groups abroad isolationist? Could it lead to the UK being marginalised on the international stage?

If IS had been left to run free across the Middle East and North Africa what would the map of the world look like? How many citizens from those countries would have been murdered, and how many of them would have been drafted into an IS army?

And then there loss of access to the oilfields in the Middle East and North Africa.

I agree with Corbyn in that the ambition must be for peace and stability but sometimes you actually have to fight for peace. Most wars need a victor and a loser for the world to move on.

That is what impressed me with Corbyn.
He talked about 'ungoverned regions' rather that countries.
IS move into those ungoverned areas as they know that they are an easy place to operate from. UN should intervene when this happens.
 
That is what impressed me with Corbyn.
He talked about 'ungoverned regions' rather that countries.
IS move into those ungoverned areas as they know that they are an easy place to operate from. UN should intervene when this happens.

Which then begs the question should the UK contribute troops etc to a UN/NATO solution? Lets be honest here, IS don't have any diplomats to negotiate with. And if they did, what country do they represent? An ungoverned region is still part of a sovereign nation.
 
IS can be defeated in the same way Hitler and Napoleon were.........cut off their money and supply chain.

and make them invade Russia .....In winter...like thats going to happen with Is


Im seeing very little similarities regarding Hitler / Napoleon, and IS



But we are getting Off Track, back to the GE methinks
 
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