Ge 2017

[ger147]

Does labours leaked manifesto promises make them a party worth voting for? Interested to hear peoples opinions, certainly better than bringing back fox hunting ...

No...

 

[SocketRocket]

At first glances it looks like the sort of manifesto that would provide a better, more equal, country for our children and grandchildren to live in.

As long as they have no aspirations of getting a job or starting a business.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Does labours leaked manifesto promises make them a party worth voting for? Interested to hear peoples opinions, certainly better than bringing back fox hunting ...

Not for me. As a small business owner the pledge to raise corporation tax to 26% ensures that they won't get my vote. It's being billed as making big business pay more but also punishes tens of thousands of small businesses at the same time. Along with the increase in the minimum wage I'm fairly confident that it will lead to job losses at smaller companies that are just about surviving now but will struggle under these new rules.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Good to see you broadening your horizons. You should see what the British press are saying about the American President.

The British press don't report the half of it. I keep up to date on matters across the pond watching MSNBC, CNN, CBS and NBC news clips - as well as David Pakman and TYT - all on Youtube - so I have a pretty good idea of what is going on over there.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

As long as they have no aspirations of getting a job or starting a business.

Explain please.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Not for me. As a small business owner the pledge to raise corporation tax to 26% ensures that they won't get my vote. It's being billed as making big business pay more but also punishes tens of thousands of small businesses at the same time. Along with the increase in the minimum wage I'm fairly confident that it will lead to job losses at smaller companies that are just about surviving now but will struggle under these new rules.

So who are the Tories going to go to for the tax increases they need to put in place to fund the NHS and fill the Brexit hole? Oh I forgot - the multinationals that they have studiously failed to get to pay their taxes, and increased efficiency...it's just magic.

 

[Hobbit]

So who are the Tories going to go to for the tax increases they need to put in place to fund the NHS and fill the Brexit hole? Oh I forgot - the multinationals that they have studiously failed to get to pay their taxes, and increased efficiency...it's just magic.

Surely you didn't miss the £350 million plastered all over the bus!?

 

[SocketRocket]

Explain please.

What explanation does it need. Do you not think that raising Corporation tax to 26% will lose peoples jobs, cut back investment and reduce new businesses. I take it you have never ran a business?

 

[SocketRocket]

So who are the Tories going to go to for the tax increases they need to put in place to fund the NHS and fill the Brexit hole? Oh I forgot - the multinationals that they have studiously failed to get to pay their taxes, and increased efficiency...it's just magic.

Do you believe these multinationals don't pay any tax. Do they not pay Ni, do their employees not pay income tax, when their employees purchase anything do they not pay tax. Lets drive them away so that we no longer have to take their dirty money

 

[Hobbit]

Does labours leaked manifesto promises make them a party worth voting for? Interested to hear peoples opinions, certainly better than bringing back fox hunting ...

There's some great stuff it, certainly some things I'd be happy to vote for. But "show me the money." Convince me this is affordable and not just some vote grabber.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Tory no-name on panel of QT from Edinburgh.
'Ruth Davidson has done a fantastic job'
Audience breaks into spontaneous laughter:lol:

The usual plant in the audience.
Fat, baldy guy with 'orange' half zip top who Dimbledumb allowed free reign is a Stirling Tory councillor.

 

[SocketRocket]

Tory no-name on panel of QT from Edinburgh.
'Ruth Davidson has done a fantastic job'
Audience breaks into spontaneous laughter:lol:

The usual plant in the audience.
Fat, baldy guy with 'orange' half zip top who Dimbledumb allowed free reign is a Stirling Tory councillor.

Right, so it's unacceptable to be a Tory Councillor and be a Tory in your eyes but worse than that it's wrong to be fat, baldy and wear an 'orange' half zip top! I suppose if he was English as well you would have spontaneously combusted.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Surely you didn't miss the £350 million plastered all over the bus!?

Isn't that going to the £60bn set aside for mitigating short term costs of leaving?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/chancellors-60bn-brexit-fighting-fund-n7hmvzptq

Which is a pity - as that amount of money would fund a fair bit of the Labour manifesto - that's the one that is unaffordable.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Right, so it's unacceptable to be a Tory Councillor and be a Tory in your eyes but worse than that it's wrong to be fat, baldy and wear an 'orange' half zip top! I suppose if he was English as well you would have spontaneously combusted.[/QUOTE

Councillor's are not allowed in the audience......so we are told

Just had my Scots Tory Party GE leaflet delivered
Quick summary of contents.

Independence
Independence
SNP BAaaaad
Independence
Independence.

It is a GE, nothing to do with Independence, have the Scots Tories nothing to offer other than banging on eternally about Independence.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Right, so it's unacceptable to be a Tory Councillor and be a Tory in your eyes but worse than that it's wrong to be fat, baldy and wear an 'orange' half zip top! I suppose if he was English as well you would have spontaneously combusted.

I'm not 100% sure that you have got the point of DfT mentioning the 'orange' half zip top. Maybe you have...

 

[Hobbit]

Isn't that going to the £60bn set aside for mitigating short term costs of leaving?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/chancellors-60bn-brexit-fighting-fund-n7hmvzptq

Which is a pity - as that amount of money would fund a fair bit of the Labour manifesto - that's the one that is unaffordable.

One of my major concerns with the Labour manifesto is the strong hint at going down the route of PFI's again. Having experienced PFI's from both sides in the NHS - NO!!!!! Let's not forget, it was a Labour govt that signed up to the first tranche of 10 PFI funded hospitals. How on earth they are legal just beggars belief.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

One of my major concerns with the Labour manifesto is the strong hint at going down the route of PFI's again. Having experienced PFI's from both sides in the NHS - NO!!!!! Let's not forget, it was a Labour govt that signed up to the first tranche of 10 PFI funded hospitals. How on earth they are legal just beggars belief.

I think serious lessons to be learned from PFIs. So if any party ever chose to go down that route again I would expect their to be very significant scrutiny on the PFI deals themselves so we don't get in the financial bind we find ourselves in with these deals.

That said - what state our hospitals were it not for PFI funding...maybe we had little choice but to agree to these deals were we not to see hospitals falling down around our ears.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

https://ayerightradio.wordpress.com/2017/05/12/ruth-davidson-car-crash-interview-radio-five-live/

Ruthie getting totally sandbagged on Radio 5.
Trying to defend the indefensible again
Tough listen if you are a Tory.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I'm not 100% sure that you have got the point of DfT mentioning the 'orange' half zip top. Maybe you have...

Yes, strange how those QT plants do seem to like their orange tops.

Perhaps the ex Bullingdon Boy personally vets them.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Yes, strange how those QT plants do seem to like their orange tops.

Perhaps the ex Bullingdon Boy personally vets them.

Hopefully by now the (rather sad) significance of the orange tops is well understood by all on here,