clubchamp07
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What did I miss?
I'm on this site every day, more times than I can count, and I missed it all.
What happened?
I'm on this site every day, more times than I can count, and I missed it all.
What happened?
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Andy
Tour Winner
Dont tell porkies then.
Andy
rgs
Tour Rookie
Look forummers whatever HJS did or did not do, unless he was cheating on the course, does not merit,IMHO, 4 pages of comments.
Lets get back to discussing other more important issues.
Lets get back to discussing other more important issues.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Crime of the century..................
good evening all
having been on holiday for the last two weeks - and with almost no internet access for the last four days - so I'm only really just reading through the posts and catching up on this situation.
I have no desire to prolong the debate unnecessarily but think it might be useful to give my views because ultimately, as editor, I'm responsible for what goes on here!
I can only reiterate what Brendy says that there is no case of one rule for one and one for others and. The GM staff and moderators aim to deal with everyone and every situation on a case by case basis and hopefully with an even handed approach
Having had a look at all the posts I'd have done what medwayjon did and removed them.
Whether or not you think Homer's posts/actions deserved the riposte they got is of course up to the individual, but Jon (and retrospectively me too) felt enough people had had their say on the subject and that posts were getting a little out of hand on both sides.
Whether or not you agree with the above view is of course your own opinion, but it is my opinion, as the editor of Golf Monthly, that the threads did not reflect well on the forum and by association the Golf Monthly 'brand'.
There's a fine line good-natured banter and personal attacks (and also what is and is not appropriate material to be posting) and when in the opinion of the moderators or GM staff that line is crossed, posts will be removed and protagonists asked to moderate their postings.
It has happened a number of times before (most notably with posts regarding mono) and I suspect will happen again in the future although I would of course prefer it didn't!
I have said many many times before that this is YOUR forum and its here principally for you to chat about golf, arrange games, sell kit but also discuss off topic stuff too.
There are some great posters on the forum who have interesting opinions and views to proffer and debate and I for one can happily spend hours reading the posts here and putting my odd twopennth in on anything from the latest golf kit to star wars.
However at the end of the day I need to make sure that the content on the Golf Monthly website - including the forum - reflects well on a brand that will celebrate its centenary in two years time and is respected by golfers and the golf industry alike.
Our advertisers and clients do read the posts on here and I often get comments from them about the quality of postings and the depth of golfing knowledge that GM forumers have.
The decision to advertise with Golf Monthly is not, as one poster suggested, just about the raw numbers (ie the page impressions and unique users the GM site boasts) but rather what ultimately persuades advertisers to buy advertising space is the environment the adverts appear in and sort of golfers they are advertising to.
Those golf companies who advertise with us on the website do so principally because they believe they are getting their advertising in front of the sort of people they are really keen to interact with - those serious about the game of golf.
It's my view that any advertiser who logged on and saw the threads that are being discussed here would question whether or not that was an environment in which they'd want their adverts to appear. The same goes for potential new forumers who were browsing the site. Would they read those posts and think was a great place to come and get involved?
I of one don't think so.
I do hope we can draw a line under this and get back to doing what this forum does best. Talking golf and engaging in good-natured banter
having been on holiday for the last two weeks - and with almost no internet access for the last four days - so I'm only really just reading through the posts and catching up on this situation.
I have no desire to prolong the debate unnecessarily but think it might be useful to give my views because ultimately, as editor, I'm responsible for what goes on here!
I can only reiterate what Brendy says that there is no case of one rule for one and one for others and. The GM staff and moderators aim to deal with everyone and every situation on a case by case basis and hopefully with an even handed approach
Having had a look at all the posts I'd have done what medwayjon did and removed them.
Whether or not you think Homer's posts/actions deserved the riposte they got is of course up to the individual, but Jon (and retrospectively me too) felt enough people had had their say on the subject and that posts were getting a little out of hand on both sides.
Whether or not you agree with the above view is of course your own opinion, but it is my opinion, as the editor of Golf Monthly, that the threads did not reflect well on the forum and by association the Golf Monthly 'brand'.
There's a fine line good-natured banter and personal attacks (and also what is and is not appropriate material to be posting) and when in the opinion of the moderators or GM staff that line is crossed, posts will be removed and protagonists asked to moderate their postings.
It has happened a number of times before (most notably with posts regarding mono) and I suspect will happen again in the future although I would of course prefer it didn't!
I have said many many times before that this is YOUR forum and its here principally for you to chat about golf, arrange games, sell kit but also discuss off topic stuff too.
There are some great posters on the forum who have interesting opinions and views to proffer and debate and I for one can happily spend hours reading the posts here and putting my odd twopennth in on anything from the latest golf kit to star wars.
However at the end of the day I need to make sure that the content on the Golf Monthly website - including the forum - reflects well on a brand that will celebrate its centenary in two years time and is respected by golfers and the golf industry alike.
Our advertisers and clients do read the posts on here and I often get comments from them about the quality of postings and the depth of golfing knowledge that GM forumers have.
The decision to advertise with Golf Monthly is not, as one poster suggested, just about the raw numbers (ie the page impressions and unique users the GM site boasts) but rather what ultimately persuades advertisers to buy advertising space is the environment the adverts appear in and sort of golfers they are advertising to.
Those golf companies who advertise with us on the website do so principally because they believe they are getting their advertising in front of the sort of people they are really keen to interact with - those serious about the game of golf.
It's my view that any advertiser who logged on and saw the threads that are being discussed here would question whether or not that was an environment in which they'd want their adverts to appear. The same goes for potential new forumers who were browsing the site. Would they read those posts and think was a great place to come and get involved?
I of one don't think so.
I do hope we can draw a line under this and get back to doing what this forum does best. Talking golf and engaging in good-natured banter
clubchamp07
Journeyman Pro
Well said MikeH
Tommo21
Tour Winner
I’ve been waiting for this. All very good Mike, but It should never have been pulled. I feel more damage has been done by pulling it and I think this forum has lost some credibility in more ways than one. I'm seriously considering my involvement and I know a few others are not happy. I would go as far as to say we're trying to go along as if nothing happened at all. I would be more than happy to say I’ve been wrong, in fact I wish I could then we would know the end result. But we don’t and that’s where the credibility is lost.
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
Mike.
Just for clarification and future reference, could you highlight where exactly that fine line was crossed?
There were no personal attacks. There was no foul language. There were no threats of retribution. There was banter, yes....plenty of it. But personal attacks????
No. None. Nada.
Sorry I just cannot agree with many many parts of your post Mike.As suggested to Homer himself an apology for his crass lies would go a long way toward some respect for him being salvaged.For a youngster to put up a post like that we could maybe understand but from the guy who puts together 'our' forum page in the mag is bewildering. 
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
I personally don't think Homer needs to apologise as such. His actions didn't hurt anyone else.
What I find hard to accept is that for the vast majority this was a giggle...albeit at somebody elses expense. OK schoolboy stuff some may say, but it was bloody funny all the same.
To come out now with the excuse that "boundaries had been crossed" and that things had got "personal"...nothing could be further from the truth.
Totally agree Smiffy with regards to the banter but the line for me WAS crossed when he brings up his wifes illness as a deflection...for me that crossed the line, ffs if that had been me caught telling the porkies I would have been sitting chortling at some of the posts but hey we are all different I suppose.
Parmo
Tour Winner
Please for the love of god and homergate, can we putt this to bed please, mind you after last weekend I will three putt that aswell
Wildrover
Tour Rookie
Guys, it's a golf forum, not the United Nations. Get over it and move on. I didn't read the deleted posts regarding Homer and frankly I don't give a monkey's what happened. The Mods have a job to do that I guess is a pretty thankless task, would you want to commit your time to do it?
Now start talking about golf for god's sake.
Now start talking about golf for god's sake.
clubchamp07
Journeyman Pro
Ok wild, but this is the same guy who in the past has slatted mono for some funny stories, so I think he's good enough for it.
Wildrover
Tour Rookie
I'm not saying he doesn't, it's all this freedom of speech and censorship talk, I feel it's over the top on a forum where we should be talking about golf, not about human rights and amnesty international. Bono will be getting involved next.
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
We're in "out of bounds" now though. Anything (within reason) goes.
The long and the short of it is, we're being told who we can and can't take the piss out of now.
That's all it was, a bit of mickey taking. But no, we're censored.
Out of order in my book
medwayjon
Tour Winner
Rob, you can take the piss out of me mate, no probs.
BTW do you still putt like a girl!?!?
BTW do you still putt like a girl!?!?
Pants
Challenge Tour Pro
It was definitely a mistake to pull the threat.
OK there might have been a few more posts on the original subject but, having pulled it, there have now been 4 pages of posts - most of which are of a negative nature to the forum and GM.
OK there might have been a few more posts on the original subject but, having pulled it, there have now been 4 pages of posts - most of which are of a negative nature to the forum and GM.
Aye pants,strange one that,maybe it's cos there no witty humour in this one....prepare for another thread removal guys.
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
BTW do you still putt like a girl!?!?
I most certainly do
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