Flags Out????

[stueyginger]

Just a thread to show my frustration that we still cannot lift a flag out whilst playing competitive golf.

Does anyone have any idea when they will be allowed to be removed?

I mean most golfers wear a glove, carry a towel to flags and bunker rakes for that matter could easily be removed 'safely'

Personally, I think it's getting beyond a joke, no different from taking a trolley from the side of Tesco, or filling your car up with fuel.

Being an aggressive putter, I've had several bounce outs - don't mind the flag being in from distance but 10ft and under it has to be out for me!!

 

[sweaty sock]

Not before 12th June.

Im with you, I hated the rule change but at least I could work around it.

Still - if its saved a single life its got to be worth it.

Rakes in bunkers are hopefully in the same boat...

 

[Orikoru]

I wouldn't expect it soon. Probably not even June 12th, it'll be some later date when they're sure everyone's been vaccinated I expect.

 

[fundy]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/08/...aning-surfaces.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

 

[SaintHacker]

I agree its a ridiculous rule. You pick up a ball thats been rolling through god knows what, but you cant touch the flagstick. If you're that worried about it just sanitise your hands after every hole? But there you are, its the rule for the time being so we have to put up with it

 

[IanM]

I had a putt bounce out this morning on a shortish putt where normally, I would have had the flag out.

In the scheme of things, there are bigger fish to fry. I've no idea if handling the flag stick is covid dangerous or not... but if we have to be flexible to keep playing (and politicians out of our faces) so be it!

 

[JollyRedDevil]

At Radcliffe-on-Trent in Nottingham they have a local rule that if your ball hits the flag, it's considered holed.

 

[Orikoru]

At Radcliffe-on-Trent in Nottingham they have a local rule that if your ball hits the flag, it's considered holed.

I imagine people are hitting their putts a lot harder as a result then?

 

[SaintHacker]

At Radcliffe-on-Trent in Nottingham they have a local rule that if your ball hits the flag, it's considered holed.

Is this an actual sanctioned local rule or just an agreement between mates?

 

[Mandofred]

I would hope by June....but who knows? I still don't get being able to go to the shops/hairdresser etc etc and not be able to go to the pub.

 

[craigstardis1976]

It is a mystery to me why golfers in the UK are doing this. Just tell people "No, it is ridiculous. You have not thought this through and we are not going to be dictated to or have our freedoms limited by people with no evidence to back up their assertion." I live in the third worse hit state in the USA and there was never a golf ban, here. People went through a phase of not touching the flag but people pretty quickly realized there are far more likely ways to catch COVID then touching a metal pole in the middle of the countryside very briefly.

 

[Orikoru]

It is a mystery to me why golfers in the UK are doing this. Just tell people "No, it is ridiculous. You have not thought this through and we are not going to be dictated to or have our freedoms limited by people with no evidence to back up their assertion." I live in the third worse hit state in the USA and there was never a golf ban, here. People went through a phase of not touching the flag but people pretty quickly realized there are far more likely ways to catch COVID then touching a metal pole in the middle of the countryside very briefly.

Brilliant idea, we all ignore the (extremely minor) restrictions until they shut down all the courses again for another month. Dear me.

 

[PJ87]

What's June 12th got to do with anything?

It's the 21st?

But still. Leave them in forever.

 

[craigstardis1976]

Brilliant idea, we all ignore the (extremely minor) restrictions until they shut down all the courses again for another month. Dear me.

There is something about the UK mindset that seems to love giving up the majority of its rights when the Government says to do so. Just tell them: "We are not shutting our course. It is a private business. People are educated and informed enough to make their own decisions." The lack of trust UK Governments in its population, and UK management has in its workforce when I lived in the UK, with all their red tape and "never question a supervisor or an order" mentality was one of my biggest motivating factors to leave. Sad to see twenty years later, the same mentality still prevails.

 

[Orikoru]

There is something about the UK mindset that seems to love giving up the majority of its rights when the Government says to do so. Just tell them: "We are not shutting our course. It is a private business. People are educated and informed enough to make their own decisions." The lack of trust UK Governments in its population, and UK management has in its workforce when I lived in the UK, with all their red tape and "never question a supervisor or an order" mentality was one of my biggest motivating factors to leave. Sad to see twenty years later, the same mentality still prevails.

Then everyone gets hit with fines that I'm sure many can't afford. All so we can touch a flagstick that isn't even necessary? Grow up.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

At Radcliffe-on-Trent in Nottingham they have a local rule that if your ball hits the flag, it's considered holed.

?? too obvious

It is a mystery to me why golfers in the UK are doing this. Just tell people "No, it is ridiculous. You have not thought this through and we are not going to be dictated to or have our freedoms limited by people with no evidence to back up their assertion." I live in the third worse hit state in the USA and there was never a golf ban, here. People went through a phase of not touching the flag but people pretty quickly realized there are far more likely ways to catch COVID then touching a metal pole in the middle of the countryside very briefly.

The mystery is easily solved

Because the games governing bodies have decided upon a set of rules to allow the game to restart up during Covid restrictions and all clubs must follow those rules or face sanctions of closure or fines .
People are more than happy to continue to follow the restrictions to ensure we do our bit to combat this virus.

What's June 12th got to do with anything?

It's the 21st?

But still. Leave them in forever.

Flags will not be “left in forever”

 

[Mandofred]

What's June 12th got to do with anything?

It's the 21st?

But still. Leave them in forever.

I actually wouldn't mind. Although, from inside 10 feet I kind of like the flag out. Now the question I have asked myself.....because I walk a lot and come up with these stupid questions over the couple hours I'm out there......

Ifffffff, the flag HAD to be left in forever. How much bigger would the hole have to be to allow the same chance of the ball going in the hole? 1/2 inch....1 inch (sorry, not a mm person). Must be some bored math person out there?

 

[Ethan]

There is something about the UK mindset that seems to love giving up the majority of its rights when the Government says to do so. Just tell them: "We are not shutting our course. It is a private business. People are educated and informed enough to make their own decisions." The lack of trust UK Governments in its population, and UK management has in its workforce when I lived in the UK, with all their red tape and "never question a supervisor or an order" mentality was one of my biggest motivating factors to leave. Sad to see twenty years later, the same mentality still prevails.

Comedy gold. I didn't know you American chaps did sarcasm and satire.

You are in the third worst affected US state. And you didn't have a golf ban, and presumably didn't do a bunch of other stuff. Mmm, could those be connected?

 

[IanM]

Comedy gold. I didn't know you American chaps did sarcasm and satire.

You are in the third worst affected US state. And you didn't have a golf ban, and presumably didn't do a bunch of other stuff. Mmm, could those be connected?

They forgot to gargle with Domestos?

 

[D-S]

We use these thin flags with the small metal insert to ensure the ball doesn’t fall to the bottom of the hole. Seems the best, most ‘normal’ solution I’ve seen so far.