First time i have ever had my swing measured

[wull]

thats above tour stats.........in actual fact 320 carry is longer than the average overall driving distance of the longest hitters.bubba etc will be in and around 315yrds overall distance at the end of the season.

if the swing speed is correct i'd be annoyed with the end results,something not quite right.

my swing speed is over 10mph slower yet my ball speed is the same if not slightly more with longer overall distance aswell.

alvaro quiros swings it at 125mph at the very most and dustin johnson will maybe get 127mph with a very very hard hit ball.

 

[Brookesy]

I swear everybody on this forum thinks that just because people can hit it far then they must be lying as there not on the tour. Ive seen plenty of people who hit the ball miles but will never make it because there short game and putting is crap.

I think people need to realise how good the "tour pros" are at short game, putting and most of all consistency swear every forum post now is people saying in a jokey way that people must be lying because there not playing off scratch.

 

[JustOne]

I've heard it said that it's not unusual for AG to have it's machines set to show an extra 10% so a swing around the 115mph comes out more like 126mph, whatever it is MadAdey it's pretty good so I wouldn't worry.

Personally I'd be happy with your launch and spin.... although if you find a club that gets the spin down to 2600rpm you're on to a winner. My old titleist used to be 4,500rpm!, there's something about Titleist and high spinning drivers



for the record here's Dustin johnsons trackman stats.... (hopefully this'll display properly).. you'll need to scroll it left and right.

 

[moogie]

I swear everybody on this forum thinks that just because people can hit it far then they must be lying as there not on the tour. Ive seen plenty of people who hit the ball miles but will never make it because there short game and putting is crap.

I think people need to realise how good the "tour pros" are at short game, putting and most of all consistency swear every forum post now is people saying in a jokey way that people must be lying because there not playing off scratch.

Im not implying that at all........
The OP has just passed on the figures he has seen on the screen
I KNOW there are big hitters out there, some who cant put a card together
I KNOW one at my own club, he has 160 Ball Speed, went to a Taylormade Demo day last summer R11, was carrying 323yds on 1 drive.........!!!
He plays off 14 H/Cap, he WAS 16 H/Cap at the time.....But Guess What, he played with me last week, lost 8 balls, and shot OVER a TON.......

 

[Brookesy]

More of a general grumble at the whole forum than just you moogie lol

Just seems every forum post i read is about this subject lol

 

[Piece]

Operator error? Bad timing? No nothing to do with that. The ball was going as I wanted it with a very slight draw. If you read my OP I tell you there what was the problem. I was launching it far too high, about 4 degrees too much launch angle. So yes the distance is not good compared to the swing speed, but I am just firing it straight up in the air not forward. The face was 0.5 degree open at impact. So no problem there really. That was only over 3 balls as he was showing me what this machine can do for me regarding getting a driver set up correctly. I did hit about 30 balls on the range to see how it feels though and it goes seriously long and straight.

I must say this new design does help generate extra clubhead speed as it just felt effortless. Checked out a distance calculator and it says with my swing speed I should be getting 320 yards......bloody hope so, but not holding out any hope.

Thanks for the good feedback from people...to the others I really can't be bothered to get into an argument about this. They are the facts from the machine so that si what you have to go with......

The FlightScope and Trackman monitors can be setup with a variety of atmospheric parameters to reflect where in the world you are. Obviously ball stats will improve if the temp, wind and humidity values are set high. But this won't matter as long as you are comparing like for like. For example, I was at Precision Golf yesterday hitting balls in a 0 deg climate, yet Trackman was set at 75f, but because I was using the same atmospheric parameters for a my current driver and new driver, I could see what the real picture was.

Back to your figures. If you have this raw club head speed, then this is excellent. The items to address are, as mentioned, lowering spin, decreasing the launch by a few degrees AND also to look at your driver length and angle of attack so that your smash factor increases. Ideally you want a very slight positive angle of attack to show that you are hitting slightly up...this will affect the rpm too. Driver length will affect MOI, so some impact tape will help to show up if you're not hitting the sweet spot. Could a bit out of the toe...?

Anyway, the key thing is to know the parameters of the monitor and what the figures mean, and to compare like for like Good luck!

 

[MadAdey]

Cheers Justone very interesting to see those facts from Dustin on a machine. I only had a couple of hits on the machine as I will need to book in to get it done properly.

I think the machine was set up correctly Piece. It was on a range not a net.

This was not a thread about how far I can hit the ball, I have been playing this game too long and good enough not to really care about how far it goes. I was just putting up the stats in the hope that someone who has more knowledge of this could point me in the right direction.

Good thing is that the person that was helping me was at TM a couple of weeks ago being trained to fit the R11s up using the readouts. He said with a proper session he would be able to get the spin rate and launch angle down, so that my ball speed would increase.

 

[wull]

I swear everybody on this forum thinks that just because people can hit it far then they must be lying as there not on the tour. Ive seen plenty of people who hit the ball miles but will never make it because there short game and putting is crap.

I think people need to realise how good the "tour pros" are at short game, putting and most of all consistency swear every forum post now is people saying in a jokey way that people must be lying because there not playing off scratch.

i agree with this because when i first came on this i made the mistake of mentioning how far i hit the ball in reply to a thread and all hell broke loose

so i'm not fussed about how far he hits it,in actual fact i think he's losing out on distance somewhere if he swings it @ 125+ and only manages 270+ yrds total with a ball speed of under 170mph.

like i keep saying something ain't right there.if dustin johnson is swinging at 122mph and getting 182mph ball speed and a overall distance of 332 yrds then either poor striking is to blame or the swing speed is not accurate.

 

[MadAdey]

i agree with this because when i first came on this i made the mistake of mentioning how far i hit the ball in reply to a thread and all hell broke loose

so i'm not fussed about how far he hits it,in actual fact i think he's losing out on distance somewhere if he swings it @ 125+ and only manages 270+ yrds total with a ball speed of under 170mph.

like i keep saying something ain't right there.if dustin johnson is swinging at 122mph and getting 182mph ball speed and a overall distance of 332 yrds then either poor striking is to blame or the swing speed is not accurate.

Like I have already said Wull I am not bothered about hitting it over 300yards, I would prefer to be accurate. But the club did need the head adjusting to lower the loft and backspin as that is where I was loosing the distance from, like I was told when I had a quick go with it. The ball striking was good, but far too much backspin, which was apparent from the height I was hitting it. Either I need a lower launch shaft or it may be worth trying it in the X-stiff. Lowering that backspin and launch angle will give me the missing distance.

I do not lie about things like this as you can only end up looking a complete prat when people find out you are liar. I am on the reserve list for Woodhall Spa and have my name on a tee slot for the Help For Heroes meet at the end of the year. Going to a meet after claiming I hit the ball further than most tour pros would be pretty stupid wouldn't it? People would be expecting me to stand on the tee and crunch 300+ drives, then I sky one 230 yards would make me look a complete prat wouldn't it?

 

[Bigfoot]

These stats are fascinating. I shall have to find a launch monitor and see what mine are. I don't expect anything wonderful but at present I have nothing to compare to the quoted figures.

It would help to determine where I should go in the driver buying market in future.

 

[sawtooth]

I swear everybody on this forum thinks that just because people can hit it far then they must be lying as there not on the tour. Ive seen plenty of people who hit the ball miles but will never make it because there short game and putting is crap.

I think people need to realise how good the "tour pros" are at short game, putting and most of all consistency swear every forum post now is people saying in a jokey way that people must be lying because there not playing off scratch.

I agree. I dont get the high swing speed thing either. Why must the machine always be broke? Cant it just be that some normal, non-superhero, mortal swing the club 115mph+ and not be lying? or the machine tampered with?

My belief is that some amateurs can swing really fast but not have the other swing attributes that are required, speed is just one ingredient no?

 

[wull]

Like I have already said Wull I am not bothered about hitting it over 300yards, I would prefer to be accurate. But the club did need the head adjusting to lower the loft and backspin as that is where I was loosing the distance from, like I was told when I had a quick go with it. The ball striking was good, but far too much backspin, which was apparent from the height I was hitting it. Either I need a lower launch shaft or it may be worth trying it in the X-stiff. Lowering that backspin and launch angle will give me the missing distance.

I do not lie about things like this as you can only end up looking a complete prat when people find out you are liar. I am on the reserve list for Woodhall Spa and have my name on a tee slot for the Help For Heroes meet at the end of the year. Going to a meet after claiming I hit the ball further than most tour pros would be pretty stupid wouldn't it? People would be expecting me to stand on the tee and crunch 300+ drives, then I sky one 230 yards would make me look a complete prat wouldn't it?

with that kind of speed though you have the ingredients there to hit it 300 and more easy.

i think you need to try a stiffer shaft and i believe that will make you more accurate aswell.i currently use a stiff shaft and my miss when swinging well is left.the fitter believed that a stiffer shaft was the way to go.i haven't had the chance or the funds to go down that route just yet but hopefully i can.

 

[MadAdey]

Hitting it over 300 would be nice. This club definitely helps to increase your swing speed. I tried the latest Cobra driver also on the range not on the machine. That did not feel as fast as the R11s. I too have exactly the same when hitting the ball well. My misses are always to the left with my old R9 that had a stiff shaft.

Going to go back and get fitted properly. I will put a pic of my stats up also. I want to see the difference the x-stiff will make.

 

[NWJocko]

Hitting it over 300 would be nice. This club definitely helps to increase your swing speed. I tried the latest Cobra driver also on the range not on the machine. That did not feel as fast as the R11s. I too have exactly the same when hitting the ball well. My misses are always to the left with my old R9 that had a stiff shaft.Going to go back and get fitted properly. I will put a pic of my stats up also. I want to see the difference the x-stiff will make.

Looking forward to hearing how you get on with the driver fitting.Interesting that you seem to have no issues striking wise with the irons, 155 with a 9 iron is a good belt by anyones standards!!With the right shaft (a girder perhaps ) you should be able to hit some long, long drives!

 

[Wayman]

when i got fitted on a machine i was told between 11 and 13 on launch is spot on.
got a 8.5 degree driver and it was 12 bang on!

 

[Piece]

Hitting it over 300 would be nice. This club definitely helps to increase your swing speed. I tried the latest Cobra driver also on the range not on the machine. That did not feel as fast as the R11s. I too have exactly the same when hitting the ball well. My misses are always to the left with my old R9 that had a stiff shaft.

Going to go back and get fitted properly. I will put a pic of my stats up also. I want to see the difference the x-stiff will make.

One thing to consider is that with a high club speed the made for shafts that you get in the R11s may not be suitable for you, as compared to the mass market, you are in the exception category. Ethan, our resident shaft guru, has spoken a few times on mass market shafts. You may need an exotic upgrade that will certainly give you more options on shaft frequencies.

Keep us posted!

 

[Ethan]

One thing to consider is that with a high club speed the made for shafts that you get in the R11s may not be suitable for you, as compared to the mass market, you are in the exception category. Ethan, our resident shaft guru, has spoken a few times on mass market shafts. You may need an exotic upgrade that will certainly give you more options on shaft frequencies.

Keep us posted!

I think Adey needs to see a specialist, of one sort or another. Probably a pro who deals with other pros or long hitting freaks. None of the usual retail shafts are intended for players with 128mph driver speed. You might get away with an X shaft tipped quite a bit, but even that needs an expert fitter.

 

[beggsy]

What handicap do you play off mad adey

 

[Region3]

If the original stats were measured hitting range balls then that will affect the smash factor, so it might not be as big a problem as first thought.

Even if they were 90% balls that would take the ball speed to ~186mph giving a smash factor of ~1.45.

 

[MadAdey]

10 at the minute. But it will be going back to 5 that I did have a few years ago before a football injury stopped me playing for 2 years.