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Fiona Bruce Question Time

Bunkermagnet said:
Yes, I agree fruit picking is seasona;, I use it as an example of loacals not wanting to do anything legal they can to earn money.
If you want a full time example, why are all the street cleaning personel Eastern European? It may not be a fantastic job, but if you need full employment and money coming in why would you turn your nose up at it?
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Not the case in these parts... Local council still uses 'in house' folk to provide those services... Where out sourced folk are used they'll not necessarily be receiving a full remuneration package..
 
At sports direct Shirebrook. Most are on zero hours with the wages being the bare minimum. However that is only part of the story. Because you are working in the UK / Europe. A minimum wage for a married couple with 2,3,4 or however many kids is X Y OR Z. So if Mike Ashley is paying minimum wages and that is £250 per week, Joe Public makes up the rest of that wage to what ever the government says a man with four kids should have for a weekly income. The mans wife and kids do not even have to live in the UK. Man says wife is not working in Romania so he can claim even more. Even if she is working how do social or whatever dept in Shirebrook prove it. So money is sent over to Romania where the cost of a loaf of bread etc is far cheaper.
So where does said Romanian man live whilst over here. Well in the case of me mate Ricky. He got married, moved in with his wife and rented his house. Mr Romania moved in as did 11 of his pals. Ricky kept getting phone calls,off ex neighbour to tell him what was going off. Ricky kept going round and only Mr Romania was there. Eventually Ricky gets a phone call off the police, neighbour has rung them and police turns up and kicked out 12 people. Ricky turns up and front door is hanging off hinges as Mr Romania won't open door. Eventually Ricky got them out due to breaking the rental agreement. He has now sold house after paying a fortune to repair it. It happens all the time with people doing runners owing rent ( and am sure the British do it as well) but this another reason why people do not want to stay in Europe with the free movement of people.
 
Tashyboy said:
At sports direct Shirebrook. Most are on zero hours with the wages being the bare minimum. However that is only part of the story. Because you are working in the UK / Europe. A minimum wage for a married couple with 2,3,4 or however many kids is X Y OR Z. So if Mike Ashley is paying minimum wages and that is £250 per week, Joe Public makes up the rest of that wage to what ever the government says a man with four kids should have for a weekly income. The mans wife and kids do not even have to live in the UK. Man says wife is not working in Romania so he can claim even more. Even if she is working how do social or whatever dept in Shirebrook prove it. So money is sent over to Romania where the cost of a loaf of bread etc is far cheaper.
So where does said Romanian man live whilst over here. Well in the case of me mate Ricky. He got married, moved in with his wife and rented his house. Mr Romania moved in as did 11 of his pals. Ricky kept getting phone calls,off ex neighbour to tell him what was going off. Ricky kept going round and only Mr Romania was there. Eventually Ricky gets a phone call off the police, neighbour has rung them and police turns up and kicked out 12 people. Ricky turns up and front door is hanging off hinges as Mr Romania won't open door. Eventually Ricky got them out due to breaking the rental agreement. He has now sold house after paying a fortune to repair it. It happens all the time with people doing runners owing rent ( and am sure the British do it as well) but this another reason why people do not want to stay in Europe with the free movement of people.
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Very typical real life experience of the cheap east European labour that is flooding the country. (Ably helped but scum like Ashley) When you have seen it first hand, and whole areas turned into ghettos you would never need to ask the question “why did you vote leave”
 
Tashyboy said:
At sports direct Shirebrook. Most are on zero hours with the wages being the bare minimum. However that is only part of the story. Because you are working in the UK / Europe. A minimum wage for a married couple with 2,3,4 or however many kids is X Y OR Z. So if Mike Ashley is paying minimum wages and that is £250 per week, Joe Public makes up the rest of that wage to what ever the government says a man with four kids should have for a weekly income. The mans wife and kids do not even have to live in the UK. Man says wife is not working in Romania so he can claim even more. Even if she is working how do social or whatever dept in Shirebrook prove it. So money is sent over to Romania where the cost of a loaf of bread etc is far cheaper.
So where does said Romanian man live whilst over here. Well in the case of me mate Ricky. He got married, moved in with his wife and rented his house. Mr Romania moved in as did 11 of his pals. Ricky kept getting phone calls,off ex neighbour to tell him what was going off. Ricky kept going round and only Mr Romania was there. Eventually Ricky gets a phone call off the police, neighbour has rung them and police turns up and kicked out 12 people. Ricky turns up and front door is hanging off hinges as Mr Romania won't open door. Eventually Ricky got them out due to breaking the rental agreement. He has now sold house after paying a fortune to repair it. It happens all the time with people doing runners owing rent ( and am sure the British do it as well) but this another reason why people do not want to stay in Europe with the free movement of people.
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Unfortunately this is a common reality that many would want to ignore and pretend was otherwise. It is a similar story in some other northern EU states Parts pf Paris for example) but the EU turn a blind eye.

The UK tries hard to be fair and compassionate but the rip-off schemes are well rehearsed in some areas where there are 'classes' held to train claimants how to maximise their claim!!
 
Fade and Die said:
Very typical real life experience of the cheap east European labour that is flooding the country. (Ably helped but scum like Ashley) When you have seen it first hand, and whole areas turned into ghettos you would never need to ask the question “why did you vote leave”
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You know when I post the stuff I did Re ashley it would be to easy to come across as a little englander. When I first started working in the mining industry in 1979, there were loads of Polish working in the mines. Never met one who was not a good worker. A lot of them had worked in the pits since the Second World War finished. At the last pit I worked at Thoresby Colliery. There must of been up to 150 polish miners working there. All contractors, all on good money, all good workers. But again it upset British lads coz thousands had been made redundant and polish miners were employed before British. The benefits were all for the company not for the benefit of the British Joe Public.
 
As the value of the pound falls against the Euro, fewer Eastern Europeans are coming over here for seasonal work as they can make more money in other countries.
 
Bunkermagnet said:
Yes, I agree fruit picking is seasona;, I use it as an example of loacals not wanting to do anything legal they can to earn money.
If you want a full time example, why are all the street cleaning personel Eastern European? It may not be a fantastic job, but if you need full employment and money coming in why would you turn your nose up at it?
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I checked and the fruit picking area of Kent last year had 3.8% unemployment which basically means full employment [as explained by me in another post] 96.2% of its population is in work. This basically means there are no locals to turn down fruit picking jobs.
Same situation in the mid east Scottish areas.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
I checked and the fruit picking area of Kent last year had 3.8% unemployment which basically means full employment [as explained by me in another post] 96.2% of its population is in work. This basically means there are no locals to turn down fruit picking jobs.
Same situation in the mid east Scottish areas.
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What a great job the English are doing for Employment. Although if 96.2% of its population are in work then they must be sending children up chimneys and the elderly working until they drop.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
I checked and the fruit picking area of Kent last year had 3.8% unemployment which basically means full employment [as explained by me in another post] 96.2% of its population is in work. This basically means there are no locals to turn down fruit picking jobs.
Same situation in the mid east Scottish areas.
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Well thank god living in Kent and the area I do means I know nothing:rolleyes:
 
I'm really pee'd off cos I've rung round all the farms here in Kent and cant get a fruit picking job in January 🤔
 
Dianne Abbott is so far out of her depth as a shadow minister it's frightening. Most of the shadow cabinet are similarly drowning but none quite so badly as her. If you want to find the talent in the Labour party then you need to look on the back benches. No one with any nous will work for Corbyn, they can't back his nonsense. Hopefully he will be gone soon and the whole front bench can be swept away with him.
 
let’s get this straight: The audience weren’t jeering the useless woman because she is black, they were jeering her because she is thick.

For, thirty years the stupid cow has been demonstrating the intellectual capacity of five-year-old, but nobody has been able to say anything against her …. just in case she pulls out the old race card.

It’s hilarious up until the point that you remember she is only a couple of random events from being home secretary..... Imagine her and catweazle running the country!😱
 
Fade and Die said:
let’s get this straight: The audience weren’t jeering the useless woman because she is black, they were jeering her because she is thick.

For, thirty years the stupid cow has been demonstrating the intellectual capacity of five-year-old, but nobody has been able to say anything against her …. just in case she pulls out the old race card.

It’s hilarious up until the point that you remember she is only a couple of random events from being home secretary..... Imagine her and catweazle running the country!😱
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You know apart from a few commas, I could of wrote that. 👍
 
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