EU Referendum

[Doon frae Troon]

Well, what do we all think of Mr Cameron's negotiations.
If the nation decides to remain in Europe would you trust the EU to keep their word ?

 

[SocketRocket]

It's an orchestrated stitch up that is meaningless. What a disgrace when our PM has to go like 'Oliver Twist' to the EU asking for 'More' concessions for the way we run our country.

 

[Ethan]

Well, I intend to vote to stay regardless of what is or is not negotiated. So I therefore don't care whether Cameron achieves his objectives.

Clearly he has not though, particularly on welfare payment delays for Johnny Foreigner (sarcastic tone) I haven't read the details on the EU vote opt ours but I expect it is limited.

Many sceptics said that this Cameron campaign was inevitably going to be mostly smoke and mirrors and so it seems. .

 

[Ethan]

It's an orchestrated stitch up that is meaningless. What a disgrace when our PM has to go like 'Oliver Twist' to the EU asking for 'More' concessions for the way we run our country.

Cameron didn't have to go. He chose to do so as his finest King Harry (or Canute) moment. Instead it will end up as his Neville Chamberlsin moment.

 

[SocketRocket]

See hes even given up on stopping immigrant EU workers getting Family Allowance for their children back home.

 

[Tashyboy]

I think, and I do stand corrected on this. Most people have already made there minds up. Irrespective of Daves deals.

 

[Golfmmad]

Well, what do we all think of Mr Cameron's negotiations.
If the nation decides to remain in Europe would you trust the EU to keep their word ?

I think he did well to get it on the table in the first place but fear it's not enough.

As for your 2nd question - can we ever trust the EU and get every one to agree with what we think is best for G Britain.

I doubt it - but just my opinion.

 

[Hobbit]

I'll be voting out. I want us to be truly independent from a ruling body that is outside of the UK. As to what it will do to British exports; we import more than we export. They need our markets more than we need theirs. They will want to continue trading.

 

[SocketRocket]

I'll be voting out. I want us to be truly independent from a ruling body that is outside of the UK. As to what it will do to British exports; we import more than we export. They need our markets more than we need theirs. They will want to continue trading.

Spot on.

They put trade tariffs on us, we put tariffs on them. They wont want that to happen, the EU would be desperate to have a Free Trade agreement with the UK.

China, the USA, India and so on and so forth have trade agreements with the EU. We have been fed and will be fed a lot more scare tactics as this progresses. I'm for OUT!

 

[MegaSteve]

DaveCam, irrespective of the outcome of the upcoming vote, will not take us out of the EU... If the vote is to come out, he'll just use it as a bit of leverage to obtain a few more morsels, in hope the next vote gives him the result he wants...

 

[Fish]

I'll be voting out. I want us to be truly independent from a ruling body that is outside of the UK. As to what it will do to British exports; we import more than we export. They need our markets more than we need theirs. They will want to continue trading.

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[AMcC]

He may have got some alleged concessions but can you really see all the other member countries agreeing to it ??

 

[chrisd]

So, his ministers have been saying for some years that migrant workers are net tax payers and not benefit scrounges and now his greatest achievement is to find away not to give them benefits for 4 years because so many have (apparently) £5 - £10k of tax credits etc added to their wages?

So, they did get benefits and weren't net tax payers?

 

[Spartacus]

Hey, don't blame the foreigners!

 

[spongebob59]

Waste of time.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...-the-Cabinet-to-rediscover-their-manhood.html

 

[jp5]

Well, Mr Cameron didn't set his renegotiation bar very high and it appears that he's failed to even reach that.

Can't quite believe that he is proposing to pay child benefit for kids that don't even live here. In whose mind is that an acceptable idea?!

Generally quite pro-European, but with the complete lack of a united response on the migrant crisis, a net migration tally far exceeding the infrastructure that we are building, and the blatant discrimination between how we treat EU and non-EU migrants, I'm beginning to feel that we may be better outside the EU.

 

[Hobbit]

Well, Mr Cameron didn't set his renegotiation bar very high and it appears that he's failed to even reach that.

Can't quite believe that he is proposing to pay child benefit for kids that don't even live here. In whose mind is that an acceptable idea?!

Generally quite pro-European, but with the complete lack of a united response on the migrant crisis, a net migration tally far exceeding the infrastructure that we are building, and the blatant discrimination between how we treat EU and non-EU migrants, I'm beginning to feel that we may be better outside the EU.

We already do. He was supposed to be trying to put an end to it. Needless to say the eastern European countries will say no. Their workers over here are doing very well out of it, and shipping money back. Their governments don't want the tap to new wealth coming into their country turning off.

 

[Crazyface]

Well, Mr Cameron didn't set his renegotiation bar very high and it appears that he's failed to even reach that.

Can't quite believe that he is proposing to pay child benefit for kids that don't even live here. In whose mind is that an acceptable idea?!

Generally quite pro-European, but with the complete lack of a united response on the migrant crisis, a net migration tally far exceeding the infrastructure that we are building, and the blatant discrimination between how we treat EU and non-EU migrants, I'm beginning to feel that we may be better outside the EU.

Yup, it's nowhere near what, most of the sceptics require to get their vote. I think we will vote OUT, I do hope so as I am going to find it very hard to speak to anyone who votes to keep us in and, god forbid, this happens.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Good to see we are putting the relatively small and insignificant issue of immigrants getting benefits ahead of the wider economic implications leaving the EU will have. Do we really think that UK will continue to attract massive amounts of foreign investment if we are out of the EU? Or that many financial institutions will continue to want to base themselves here if we isolate ourselves for one of the largest trading blocs in the world? Both of which factors basically keep our economy going. As I'm not sure our economy can sustain itself on William and Kate mugs and model Big Bens.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Good to see we are putting the relatively small and insignificant issue of immigrants getting benefits ahead of the wider economic implications leaving the EU will have. Do we really think that UK will continue to attract massive amounts of foreign investment if we are out of the EU? Or that many financial institutions will continue to want to base themselves here if we isolate ourselves for one of the largest trading blocs in the world? Both of which factors basically keep our economy going. As I'm not sure our economy can sustain itself on William and Kate mugs and model Big Bens.

Quite agree, with an oot vote I also think the English based car plants will soon change their production to mainland, probably Eastern European, countries.