EU Referendum

[harpo_72]

Thats because Im not one, you on the other hand are quite useful in typifying the nonsensical balderdash that so many of the Remainers are spewing out in their bitterness. Get over it!

Get a plan, stop hoping and speculating .....

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Thanks for the frank reply. Of course I don't expect you or anyone to agree with me but on the other hand I would expect that to be on a case by case basis. Without labouring the matter, my view on immigration is a points based system, I have never suggested we have no immigration.

And I have not suggested you did, but I still do not share your view on the subject.

 

[SocketRocket]

Get a plan, stop hoping and speculating .....

It's not up to me to make a plan for the Government, I just have opinions, just like all of us on here. Hope, springs eternal, it would be a sad state of affairs if people had nothing to hope for. Speculating, well you have to speculate to accumulate and it's the entrepreneurs in business that make things happen, without speculation so many great innovations would never have left the drawing board. Ask Bill Gates.

You read the Mods post so just drop it now please unless you have some sensible points to discuss.

 

[SocketRocket]

And I have not suggested you did, but I still do not share your view on the subject.

Thats fine, I have no problem with that :thup:

 

[ger147]

Seems to be the theme round my way this week, and can't think why I thought it might be appropriate on here too...

 

[vkurup]

While I agree we need to manage migration, i am not sure the so called dream of Aussie - Points Based System is the most effective answer. I hope Leavers havent voted because the Govt will introduce a PBS in the UK. I am sure everyone is aware that the UK already has a PBS in place for non-EU citizens since 2008. The success of the UK PBS in limiting immigration is questionable

There is an interesting comparison done by Migration Watch http://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/346 I dont know who funds MW, but I am sure someone will dig it out.

Do I know how to curb migration without pulling up the drawbridge.. No.
Do I think the PBS will work in its correct form or without further widening the skill/cost gaps.. No.
I am a sad Remainer with sour grapes and wishing for a second referendum... No

<flameproof vest>

 

[SocketRocket]

While I agree we need to manage migration, i am not sure the so called dream of Aussie - Points Based System is the most effective answer. I hope Leavers havent voted because the Govt will introduce a PBS in the UK. I am sure everyone is aware that the UK already has a PBS in place for non-EU citizens since 2008. The success of the UK PBS in limiting immigration is questionable

There is an interesting comparison done by Migration Watch http://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/346 I dont know who funds MW, but I am sure someone will dig it out.

Do I know how to curb migration without pulling up the drawbridge.. No.
Do I think the PBS will work in its correct form or without further widening the skill/cost gaps.. No.
I am a sad Remainer with sour grapes and wishing for a second referendum... No

<flameproof vest>

Not many people suggest we need no immigration. The issue is that WE can decide numbers and WE can decide who we wish to live here. a PBS is not designed to cut immigration but manage it and to select the best people to bring in, unlike the shambolic free movement used by the EU.

 

[vkurup]

A funny and apparently confidential briefing note for future of London as a global financial power

http://uk.businessinsider.com/confidential-deutsche-bank-briefing-where-banks-post-brexit-2016-7

Funny because it talks about how banks might relocate out of the U.K. Silly people what do they think.. The U.K. won't thrive without the banks..

 

[MarkE]

A funny and apparently confidential briefing note for future of London as a global financial power

http://uk.businessinsider.com/confidential-deutsche-bank-briefing-where-banks-post-brexit-2016-7

Funny because it talks about how banks might relocate out of the U.K. Silly people what do they think.. The U.K. won't thrive without the banks..

Just more bitterness that the vote did'nt go the way the financial sector would have preferred. London will continue to be the European hub for finance regardless. It has the infrastructure in place built up over hundreds of years that other European cities cannot compete with. As for certain banks moving staff abroad, what's new? they have always done that.

 

[SocketRocket]

Just more bitterness that the vote did'nt go the way the financial sector would have preferred. London will continue to be the European hub for finance regardless. It has the infrastructure in place built up over hundreds of years that other European cities cannot compete with. As for certain banks moving staff abroad, what's new? they have always done that.

Also EU Banks need a passport to trade with the UK, it's a double edged sword.

 

[Hacker Khan]

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/...er-sounds-familiar-say-experts-20160720111106

And if you are a strident leaver then perhaps don't read it and get all upset, it's just a bit of fun.

 

[SocketRocket]

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/...er-sounds-familiar-say-experts-20160720111106

And if you are a strident leaver then perhaps don't read it and get all upset, it's just a bit of fun.

About as funny as a bag of A-Holes.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

A funny and apparently confidential briefing note for future of London as a global financial power

http://uk.businessinsider.com/confidential-deutsche-bank-briefing-where-banks-post-brexit-2016-7

Funny because it talks about how banks might relocate out of the U.K. Silly people what do they think.. The U.K. won't thrive without the banks..

Jings that's bad news, hoose prices in Edinburgh, Glasgow and Aberdeen will shoot up in price.

 

[SocketRocket]

While I agree we need to manage migration, i am not sure the so called dream of Aussie - Points Based System is the most effective answer. I hope Leavers havent voted because the Govt will introduce a PBS in the UK. I am sure everyone is aware that the UK already has a PBS in place for non-EU citizens since 2008. The success of the UK PBS in limiting immigration is questionable

There is an interesting comparison done by Migration Watch http://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/346 I dont know who funds MW, but I am sure someone will dig it out.

Do I know how to curb migration without pulling up the drawbridge.. No.
Do I think the PBS will work in its correct form or without further widening the skill/cost gaps.. No.
I am a sad Remainer with sour grapes and wishing for a second referendum... No

<flameproof vest>

You have posted a link from Migration watch to support your views on a PBS to manage immigration. Maybe you would be interested on their views on what immigration contributes to the exchequer:

http://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/386

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I suspect that to the UK contribute more to the UK economy than immigrants from the UK contribute to the economy of the rest of the EU (as many are retired and not working) So the quid pro quo I hear Brexiteers talking on immigrants to UK staying here only if UK immigrants to rEU are allowed to stay in EU is not a balanced equation. And sio I also suspect that the UK needs rEU immigrants more than the rEU needs UK immigrants.

 

[SocketRocket]

I suspect that to the UK contribute more to the UK economy than immigrants from the UK contribute to the economy of the rest of the EU (as many are retired and not working) So the quid pro quo I hear Brexiteers talking on immigrants to UK staying here only if UK immigrants to rEU are allowed to stay in EU is not a balanced equation. And sio I also suspect that the UK needs rEU immigrants more than the rEU needs UK immigrants.

I doubt if those retired migrants in the EU are costing them anything much as they get their pensions and any benefits from the UK and any healthcare they use is charged back (unlike other EU countries we actually pay our healthcare bills) They also spend quite a bit in the 'Pig and Ferret' and local Fish and Chip shops.

Did you read the paper on what Immigrants contribute net.

 

[harpo_72]

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/...er-sounds-familiar-say-experts-20160720111106

And if you are a strident leaver then perhaps don't read it and get all upset, it's just a bit of fun.

Very amusing ... I won't say anymore before I get implicated in an infraction

 

[Region3]

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/...er-sounds-familiar-say-experts-20160720111106

And if you are a strident leaver then perhaps don't read it and get all upset, it's just a bit of fun.

or to put a different slant on it, more people think the moon landings never happened than think staying in the EU was a good idea.

 

[SocketRocket]

Very amusing ... I won't say anymore before I get implicated in an infraction

 

[drdel]

I see the same 'don't leave ' economic analysts at the IMF have revisited their models and are predicting the UK's growth will be ahead of the rest of the EU's countries and many of the G9 nations.