EU Referendum

[Hobbit]

Which is just the sort of statement that many Scots would consider extremely arrogant and likely to increase the demand for another referendum - do you not understand anything about the way many Scots think when they hear statements such as this coming from Westminster, Cameron or any points south of the border?

I genuinely don't understand why the UK Parliament, Westminster, can't make statements based on UK policies. If Scottish EU membership fell under the remit of the Scottish Parliament, I could understand the upset.

Scotland voted to remain in the UK, but all the Yes for independence seem to want to link the EU vote to independence. When you're in a club, follow the club rules, or leave. You had the chance but decided to stay. By all means argue to stay or leave as a UK member, but as a Scot arguing it for Scotland... sorry but I find you arrogant!

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I genuinely don't understand why the UK Parliament, Westminster, can't make statements based on UK policies. If Scottish EU membership fell under the remit of the Scottish Parliament, I could understand the upset.

Scotland voted to remain in the UK, but all the Yes for independence seem to want to link the EU vote to independence. When you're in a club, follow the club rules, or leave. You had the chance but decided to stay. By all means argue to stay or leave as a UK member, but as a Scot arguing it for Scotland... sorry but I find you arrogant!

I'm just pointing out that by telling Scots to shut up and get on with it you will just wind many up even more than they currently are. There is no need to say it.

The Herald (quite a strong SNP BAD newspaper these days) is only reporting on a survey on EU STAY/LEAVE and how Scots might see things in the event of a UK LEAVE. And the Herald is saying that it could result in increased calls for a second referendum (even though the SNP probably don't want one for some years). There is absolutely no point in telling Scots to 'shut up' about it - they won't and it will only makes things worse.

 

[Hobbit]

I'm just pointing out that by telling Scots to shut up and get on with it you will just wind many up even more than they currently are. There is no need to say it.

The Herald (quite a strong SNP BAD newspaper these days) is only reporting on a survey on EU STAY/LEAVE and how Scots might see things in the event of a UK LEAVE. And the Herald is saying that it could result in increased calls for a second referendum (even though the SNP probably don't want one for some years). There is absolutely no point in telling Scots to 'shut up' about it - they won't and it will only makes things worse.

Why differentiate between the countries within the UK when this is UK issue, not a Scot 'v' English 'v' Welsh 'v' N Ireland issue. There's a UK parliament, of which the SNP obviously recognise by their involvement there, and a UK electorate that will make a decision. The "if we don't like it we're off" attitude is tantamount to blackmail and just gets the back up of those on the receiving end.

Seriously, coming across all hurt by politicians, or other UK citizens, who are fed up hearing "we want or else," and are biting back... sympathy you won't get, but I'm more than happy to have a debate that recognises both sides of the argument without the "do it or else attitude" which appears from north of the border.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Anyway.........here is some good news for Hobbit.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jamieross/junior-doctors-are-moving-to-scotland#.xpV61JlKW

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Why differentiate between the countries within the UK when this is UK issue, not a Scot 'v' English 'v' Welsh 'v' N Ireland issue. There's a UK parliament, of which the SNP obviously recognise by their involvement there, and a UK electorate that will make a decision. The "if we don't like it we're off" attitude is tantamount to blackmail and just gets the back up of those on the receiving end.

Seriously, coming across all hurt by politicians, or other UK citizens, who are fed up hearing "we want or else," and are biting back... sympathy you won't get, but I'm more than happy to have a debate that recognises both sides of the argument without the "do it or else attitude" which appears from north of the border.

Why indeed - but many Scots will and do - you'll soon discover that! Have fun telling them to shut up.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Anyway.........here is some good news for Hobbit.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jamieross/junior-doctors-are-moving-to-scotland#.xpV61JlKW

..and as my Mrs said - if doctors quit, or move to Scotland and overseas we'll need loads more immigrant doctors to replace them. You are doing really well Mr Hunt - though in truth you are really just PRDave's patsy.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

..and as my Mrs said - if doctors quit, or move to Scotland and overseas we'll need loads more immigrant doctors to replace them. You are doing really well Mr Hunt - though in truth you are really just PRDave's patsy.

"One medic predicted"

A whole story based on the prediction of one junior doctor

That couldn't more clutching at straws

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Someone in a pub told me that many of the Syrian refugees were Doctors, health care staff and teachers.
If so, Scotland welcomes you it is a totally Hunt free envoirnment.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

"One medic predicted"

A whole story based on the prediction of one junior doctor

That couldn't more clutching at straws

I also heard it on the BBC Scotland this morning......you can't a more balanced view than that.






......or can you:lol:

 

[SocketRocket]

Why indeed - but many Scots will and do - you'll soon discover that! Have fun telling them to shut up.

So what will these Scots do about it? Pray tell!

 

[SocketRocket]

Someone in a pub told me that many of the Syrian refugees were Doctors, health care staff and teachers.
If so, Scotland welcomes you it is a totally Hunt free envoirnment.

And we know that you believe everything someone says down the pub!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

And we know that you believe everything someone says down the pub!

Irony overload

 

[Doon frae Troon]

..and as my Mrs said - if doctors quit, or move to Scotland and overseas we'll need loads more immigrant doctors to replace them. You are doing really well Mr Hunt - though in truth you are really just PRDave's patsy.

I have often wondered if Hunt has something bigger than 'piggy gate' on Cameron.
What else could explain how such a total numpty could hold a ministerial position.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

And we know that you believe everything someone says down the pub!

It's a step up from Wings

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

"One medic predicted"

A whole story based on the prediction of one junior doctor

That couldn't more clutching at straws

You want to speak with almost anyone in the NHS these days and they'll tell you they know plenty looking to get out - and they might well include themselves in that group. It's not 'one medic'.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

So what will these Scots do about it? Pray tell!

Well in fact they can do nothing. So why wind them up and make them even more angry. There is always secession from the union - but in truth I'm guessing that that's very unlikely and would be incredibly difficult and damaging.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Well in fact they can do nothing. So why wind them up and make them even more angry. There is always secession from the union - but in truth I'm guessing that that's very unlikely and would be incredibly difficult and damaging.

Interesting statement

 

[SocketRocket]

Interesting statement

Didn know they were all reading this

 

[Doon frae Troon]

It's a step up from Wings

Irony overload 2

It was actually a TV news item a couple of days ago but I thought 'a man in the pub' would draw out the 'usual suspects'.
And it did.:lol:

 

[delc]

Isn't the fact that the Daily Mail clearly wants us the leave the EU a good enough reason to vote to stay in? :mmm: