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Unfortunately tescos and similar places are full of 30yr somethings with degrees that didn't wanna do something beneath them. A few years without a job and they're soon damaged goods.
 

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I started out as REMAIN, fluctuated several times, then returned to REMAIN. The main reason? A total lack of faith/trust in our own politicians to do anything other than what is right for themselves and the interests they really represent.

So do you have more faith in the likes of Osborne and Cameron? Did you see Osborne with Andrew Neil last night, he was made to look a complete idiot.
 

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Quite - it's not like sticking a bit more memory in your PC or buying a new one with a faster processor.

No need to change anything if you've sized it appropriately in the first place. I'm amazed at the excuses being trotted out by people who seem to be involved in the industry. If this had been one of my systems I'd expect to be hauled over the coals over such a high profile embarrassing failure.

Seems like a clear design flaw in that they never anticipated that such a peak in demand could occur.

Anyway the deadline has been extended which mitigates it somewhat.
 

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So do you have more faith in the likes of Osborne and Cameron? Did you see Osborne with Andrew Neil last night, he was made to look a complete idiot.

And you have faith in Johnson, IDS, Gove and Farage?

Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right...................
 

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So do you have more faith in the likes of Osborne and Cameron? Did you see Osborne with Andrew Neil last night, he was made to look a complete idiot.

Do you have more faith in Farage?
Neil is a professional antagonist.
Whereas the studio audience made Farage look a totally clueless numpty who has a problem with 'people who are not like us'.
 

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So do you have more faith in the likes of Osborne and Cameron? Did you see Osborne with Andrew Neil last night, he was made to look a complete idiot.
I have zero faith in Cameron and Osbourne. I'm not placing my vote based on the personalities of those campaigning. I've analysed the good and bad of the EU, and then asked myself whether our Politicians would improve the bad, and maintain the good. In both cases I believe they wouldn't. Not in any way that would be beneficial to me, or people like me.
 
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And you have faith in Johnson, IDS, Gove and Farage?

Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right...................

And that's the big crux of it for me

I can't in a million years trust or back something with those names you mention looking after it - just one reason I have changed my mind
 

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"Is this thread turning into SR v/s the rest??"

I'm with SR!!!! I just haven't got the temper / knowledge / debating skills to deal with people who are obviously in the wrong.

Everyone who votes to remain should be branded so that we can identify you all when it all end up in a complete mess and point you out to our grandkids, who we won't be able to understand as they'll speak christ alone knows what language.
 

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And you have faith in Johnson, IDS, Gove and Farage?

Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right...................


Here I am stuck in the middle with you.

had the remain leaflet come yesterday,
There were four subjects highlighted on the back

says jobs will be more secure staying in. Said it before and al say it again. Didn't help me when Mr Cameron and Osborne never put in for EU aid which would of secured my job. So that was a lie.

says that pensions will be more secure staying in the EU, well seeing as my pension went tits up TWICE, and they are both in the pension protection fund. That's another lie.

The other two subjects were well subjective, at that point my tyrets had kicked it and I was struggling to focus.
 

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Do you have more faith in Farage?
Neil is a professional antagonist.
Whereas the studio audience made Farage look a totally clueless numpty who has a problem with 'people who are not like us'.

He never looked as clueless and numpty as Cameron. What a slimy piece of work he is.

Neil showed Osborne time and time again how he has exaggerated his claims about Leave. Osborne had no ansers he just kept spewing out the same old lies.
 

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And you have faith in Johnson, IDS, Gove and Farage?

Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right...................

I dont need faith in any of them. I have faith in my Nation and I know we can be better standing on our own feet. I will probably get the old hackneyed 'Jingoistic' and 'xenophobic' calls for that but I expect nothing else from some of the wishy washy socialists.
 

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"Is this thread turning into SR v/s the rest??"

I'm with SR!!!! I just haven't got the temper / knowledge / debating skills to deal with people who are obviously in the wrong.

Everyone who votes to remain should be branded so that we can identify you all when it all end up in a complete mess and point you out to our grandkids, who we won't be able to understand as they'll speak christ alone knows what language.


You do realize that any trade deal with Europe would most likely come with the proviso that we maintain the "free movement of people" policy? I know that doesn't fit your particular mind set, but hey ho....
 

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This week we have had:
Let's extend the registration process for those who couldn't be bothered to do the sensible thing, very sudden decision to hold the referendum you know.

Lets see how many pub and party goers complain when they roll out of the pub and the polling booths are closing.

The BBC reporting that a very senior MP has switched sides and will now vote remain-no derogatory comments from those who had a pop at Boris I see, PS she is a back bencher with 2 years experience as an MP and down here in the SW she originally said she was voting out because of the way the farming and fisheries policies were against UK farmers and fishermen - well she does live in the SW. Perhaps she has been offered a Cabinet Post taking over from the current Health Minister.

Looks like the head sheds in the remain campaign are a little worried.
 
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"Is this thread turning into SR v/s the rest??"

I'm with SR!!!! I just haven't got the temper / knowledge / debating skills to deal with people who are obviously in the wrong.

Everyone who votes to remain should be branded so that we can identify you all when it all end up in a complete mess and point you out to our grandkids, who we won't be able to understand as they'll speak christ alone knows what language.

I think that attitude sums up a lot of the scare tactics being used by the leave campaign


Will the same branding be applied to people who voted leave if in 10 years time us being out of the year has ruined us as a country ?
 

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You do realize that any trade deal with Europe would most likely come with the proviso that we maintain the "free movement of people" policy? I know that doesn't fit your particular mind set, but hey ho....

As a nett importer don't you think that we would have the upper hand in negotiations or as others have argued do you think that BMW, French importers and all the others will refuse to sell us goods unless we allow free movement of EU personnel .
 

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As a nett importer don't you think that we would have the upper hand in negotiations or as others have argued do you think that BMW, French importers and all the others will refuse to sell us goods unless we allow free movement of EU personnel .

Trade deals are highly complex, as you know.. We won't be able to just walk in and start making demands.. We may or may not get a favourable deal, but it won't be all our own way...
 
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