Equality in GM magazine

[sev112]

Being the kind of person who is all embracing, and inclusive within golf, and especially as someone who champions women's rights in golf, i feel GM is mssing out on a key component of its audience, or alternatively on the embracing of equality in golf.
That is, we dont see enough articles and pictures of the very stylish swings of many of the professional lady golfers. I strongly feel that there is a lot that average male golfers would learn more from than by a detailed analysis of their swings and their approach to golf.

As always, i woudl be very willing to help GM address this anomaly. Might i suggest that GM and MW arrange for a couple of the top lady golfers play a round of golf and then have a Q&A session afterwards. To make the planning easier, I'd suggest a 4 ball with me, Paula, a European lady pro and eiter one of the GM journos, or another forumer (but they would have to pass a manners test first !).

You could then expand the article by pairing up a couple of the lady forumers with Luke, Westy, Darren , Justin or may be some of those Molinaris/Quiroses (whatever takes their fancy).


Now how can you beat an article like that - the mags woudl be flying off the shelves.

 

[connor]

I'd be happy to play with Sophie horne

 

[USER1999]

The issue is that less than 10% of the readership is female. It won't sell magazines. It's the way it is.

 

[Val]

I'd be happy to play with Sophie horne

I'd play with Carly Booth just to annoy Andy

 

[chrisd]

I'd be happy to play Sophie with the horne

Isn't that more accurate?

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I think MH came on here a while back (month or so) when the topic of more female orientated articles was raised and from memory it comes down largely to economies of scale, the size and cost of publishing the mag as is and the overall appeal. Sadly there doesn't seem to be that big a female readership to justify it. There are some lady golfer mags out there (Golf Chic etc) so the females aren't being neglected totally

 

[FairwayDodger]

This seems to come up from time to time. My view is that the ladies golf mags seem aimed at ladies who golf rather than golfers who are ladies..... if you catch my drift. More golf, less pink I say!! Suffice to say, they're rubbish.... and hard to find; I searched unsuccessfully for a copy after the last time it was discussed here and eventually found on old one lying around the locker room.

MH did come on here and explain the GM rationale and fair play to him.

As a subscriber, I'd welcome an occasional female face in amongst the articles but accept it would be rare at best.

 

[thecraw]

I'd play with Carly Booth just to annoy Andy

I'll just go to Tarbert and happily sit with a coffee.:whoo:

 

[ArnoldArmChewer]

Women I believe already have their own dedicated golf magazines, whilst I believe this to be sexist I don't really care, however I for one don't want to see more female related content in GM, I have zero interest in womens golf and do not wish to read about it.

 

[the_scrambler]

I think it's fair to say that, generally speaking, women are not interested in reading golf magazines. They're full of equipment adverts with accompanying convoluted 'spiel' ... ambrosia to male golfers!
　
FairwayDodger was absolutely spot on when he stated " ...ladies who golf rather than golfers who are ladies ... ". The standard of women's golf at club level throughout the UK remains dire. Too many golf clubs are full of old biddies who refuse to change the (enforced) bad habits imposed upon them from the previous century even though EU law has presented them with the opportunity to remove discriminatory gender playing practices. This makes it well nigh impossible to turn the game for females from being a social pastime into a sporting pastime.

However, it has to be said that, given virtually all mixed-gender golf clubs (save a handful) are run by male members, it is ultimately their responsibility to ensure meaningful (from a golf development aspect) equal playing opportunities are afforded to all members whether or not the "old biddies" like it. Less there are those of you who don't understand fully what I mean by this .. I am referring to the almost exclusive use of weekends for male club competitions, in particular, Saturdays.

Ask yourself this question gents. Had male golfers been restricted to a midweek evening stroke play competition (remember, the old biddies can play in the morning, schoolgirls and working women can't), where do you think the standard of men's golf would be today?

 

[Heidi]

I think it's fair to say that, generally speaking, women are not interested in reading golf magazines. They're full of equipment adverts with accompanying convoluted 'spiel' ... ambrosia to male golfers!
　
FairwayDodger was absolutely spot on when he stated " ...ladies who golf rather than golfers who are ladies ... ". The standard of women's golf at club level throughout the UK remains dire. Too many golf clubs are full of old biddies who refuse to change the (enforced) bad habits imposed upon them from the previous century even though EU law has presented them with the opportunity to remove discriminatory gender playing practices. This makes it well nigh impossible to turn the game for females from being a social pastime into a sporting pastime.

However, it has to be said that, given virtually all mixed-gender golf clubs (save a handful) are run by male members, it is ultimately their responsibility to ensure meaningful (from a golf development aspect) equal playing opportunities are afforded to all members whether or not the "old biddies" like it. Less there are those of you who don't understand fully what I mean by this .. I am referring to the almost exclusive use of weekends for male club competitions, in particular, Saturdays.

Ask yourself this question gents. Had male golfers been restricted to a midweek evening stroke play competition (remember, the old biddies can play in the morning, schoolgirls and working women can't), where do you think the standard of men's golf would be today?

fairway dodger is a WOMAN!! jeez...

 

[thecraw]

fairway dodger is a WOMAN!! jeez...

Seriously????????

 

[barrybridges]

This might sound incredibly sexist - which it probably is - but I'm just not interested in women's golf. So, unless there is a particularly large female audience for women's golf, there is unlikely to be the demand.

That's not to say I don't wholeheartedly support equality in the sport and attempts to get more women into the game, but - as a sporting endeavour - I'm not as interested in the women's game as the men's. That said, I suspect that like most men I haven't watched too much women's golf so I have a really outdated perception of how good the quality is.

While I continue digging myself a hole, I don't think it's quite as bad as women's football. Sometimes I watch it and struggle to see the appeal; the quality is so much lower than the men's game, with really weak goals, poor attempts to save the ball and much less skill. I suspect that this isn't an issue in women's golf though.

 

[garyinderry]

bought GI mag on the plane recently as i was up to date with GM! they had Lynn McCool giving the golf intruction. it could have been a fella giving the tips. its doesnt really matter does it? its the same principle!

 

[garyinderry]

This might sound incredibly sexist - which it probably is - but I'm just not interested in women's golf. So, unless there is a particularly large female audience for women's golf, there is unlikely to be the demand.

That's not to say I don't wholeheartedly support equality in the sport and attempts to get more women into the game, but - as a sporting endeavour - I'm not as interested in the women's game as the men's. That said, I suspect that like most men I haven't watched too much women's golf so I have a really outdated perception of how good the quality is.

While I continue digging myself a hole, I don't think it's quite as bad as women's football. Sometimes I watch it and struggle to see the appeal; the quality is so much lower than the men's game, with really weak goals, poor attempts to save the ball and much less skill. I suspect that this isn't an issue in women's golf though.

is that you Andy Gray? lol

 

[sev112]

Ok guys - it might not interest you, but i think you shoudl all support my campaign for a round of golf with Paula

 

[HomerJSimpson]

The thing is though, the avearage golfer could learn a lot from the way ladies swing the club (apart from the obvious fringe benefits). Their swing speeds etc are similar to male club golfers and it is a lot more to do with the timing they get to generate the distances. We had the county u16's and none of them could have been more than 8 stone and they were all smacking it miles off the tee and peppering the flags

 

[6inchcup]

why cant we have a nude centre fold of a woman golfer,kills two birds with one stone!!!!!

 

[bozza]

why cant we have a nude centre fold of a woman golfer,kills two birds with one stone!!!!!

A centre spread of Laura Davies!

Phwoaaaar!

 

[thecraw]

For the record, I love women.