Pin-seeker
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Looks like Rooney is being set up to be the scapegoat for if/when we fail.
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I didnt start the thread - paddyc did
I will watch a lot of games at the World Cup - and i hope there is a lot of exciting football on show and hopefully that will include England and players like Sterling , Lallana and Barkley shining out.
richy
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According to reports it's Sterling that's been getting all the plaudits in training. Not surprising really as he had a terrific second half of the season..
Pin-seeker
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All the pressure on sterling then if he plays.
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Thats why i would like to see him unleashed - he is flying , and has so much to his game , he could really be a future world star. This is the time to let these guys loose.
richy
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I think there's pressure on every player unfortunately
Have your lot not been knocked out yet?
Pin-seeker
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It's nothing compared to the pressure on Brazil's team.
Anything other than winning the WC is seen as a failure.
richy
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Totally agree. I think he could run the Italian defence ragged, I actually think they'd be worried about facing him. Welbeck........not so much.
[video=youtube;7S6tRRfr8iE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S6tRRfr8iE[/video]
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Foxholer
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Historically (and with some notable exceptions), players seem to care more for the performance of their (current) Club than that of their Country, so I don't see why it should be a big deal if fans are significantly more Club focused as well! I know quite a few who think that way - quite probably for the limited prospects for England as opposed to the ability to make something happen with a Club, as it's normally fans of the top half dozen clubs that think that way.
There's a difference between 'caring' and 'taking an interest' btw!
As a Foreigner whose National team isn't in it, I want to see exciting Football. A Brazil 4 Argentina 1 Final would please me a lot! May not even be possible though!
HawkeyeMS
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BBC reporting Wellbeck will be fit, sorry.
Although it is only Rooney's opinion so may not be true
Although it is only Rooney's opinion so may not be true
You post an awful lot of jobby on a thread about a team you hold no connection to.
And every one of your posts is an expert opinion.
Extraordinary.
Pretty much concur word for word... apart from being a Palace fan. Not while I've breathe left in my body. Fulham may be crap but I know we'll never win anything so rarely disappointed
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With the whole country vs club for both players and supporters etc i was listening to a phone with Ian Wright and Kelly Dalglish on 606 one night and they were discussing the support of England
Hopefully i will word this ok
A lot of people seem to think that the majority of the support for England
1. Comes from clubs in the southern region of England - mainly because of Wemberlee and the ease for them to get there
2 But crucially a lot of clubs who in the past havent had the top players playing at their clubs or the success for the fans to enjoy etc -
for example through the 70 and 80s etc Liverpool had a lot of success along with clubs like Everton and a few others - in that period all the top players etc where coming to Anfield and the supporters were seeing success so not many Liverpool fans bothered to travel down to Wemberlee to see a team that wasnt giving them the excitement that they saw week in week out on a saturday - also valid for the Manchester fans in the 90s etc.
A lot of travelling England fans etc are from the lower league and non league clubs apparently - thats whats they quoted and you can sort of see it when you look at the flags at an England game -you see teams like Gillingham or even Borehamwood written across the flags. When i grew up i watch Liverpool on the stands and then England on the telly when the World Cup game on - my mates werent really England fans and the only time we went to Wemberlee was for a cup final.
I have spoken to lots of Liverpool fans and Everton fans and even Mancs etc and they have the same approach to England as i do ( obviously its not the majority and there are various reasons )
But many times i have heard on phones in and in grounds etc that England is a Southern England team - its not viable for people up North to travel to Wemberlee.
What i believe the FA should have done is do what lots of other countries do - play the home games at various stadiums around the country - maybe reach out to the whole of the country - Spain , Italy , Holland , Germany , Brazil etc all do it - we just have one stadium and at a lot of games the stadium is half empty with zero atmosphere.
I use to go home and away with England in the 80's and to be honest the core support came from the Midlands (Brum, Villa, Baggies). Going away with Fulham a lot of small clubs, especially from oop north were moaning even 30 years ago at the cost and logistics to get a family down to see the national team. I thought that the FA might have continued with playing friendly matches around the country with qualifiers at Wembley. I assume money still talks even though Anfield, Old Trafford, and others would be sell outs
richart
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Same here. Perhaps it is supporting second rate teams that make us think that way.
Same here. Perhaps it is supporting second rate teams that make us think that way.
Not sure Fulham are good enough to be classed second rate these days.
chrisd
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No matter what England teams are involved in I want to see them win. Netball, rugby table tennis, whatever... when I see national players pull on an England shirt I want them to do well I quite understand that anyone from Scotland feel the same way as should the Welsh, Irish et al.
I get peeved that certain people would want to support any country that we are playing beat us, but, I equally see why those people don't actually support us. I, for one, wanted Scotland to beat Holland back in (was it) 1974 and was disappointed when they didn't.
I can't see the Wemberleeeeee argument. I gave been there and watched England but I'd equally support the England team wherever they play and when Wemberlee was undergoing reconstruction I still supported them, why would I not ....... I'm English!
I get peeved that certain people would want to support any country that we are playing beat us, but, I equally see why those people don't actually support us. I, for one, wanted Scotland to beat Holland back in (was it) 1974 and was disappointed when they didn't.
I can't see the Wemberleeeeee argument. I gave been there and watched England but I'd equally support the England team wherever they play and when Wemberlee was undergoing reconstruction I still supported them, why would I not ....... I'm English!
HawkeyeMS
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Agreed, I even found myself watching the England v Belgium hockey world cup match the other night - live, the whole game. I've never played or watched hockey before but England were playing and I found myself wanting them to win, which they did :whoo:
