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[Foxholer]

Worrying stat for any European team. None has ever won a World Cup in South America. Get your money on Brazil or Argentina.

I'd back the winner of the game between those 2 to win it - quite possibly even if it was being held elsewhere!

 

[Rooter]

Lol, ok.

Seen plenty of 30 years olds in hoodies listening to rap have you?
Maybe post 1990.

and people say golfers are stuffy?

yeh, bloomin kids. (i was born in 79)

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Argentina or Brazil for winners with Uruguay and Spain outsiders

 

[Papas1982]

yeh, bloomin kids. (i was born in 79)

and there was me thinking your were one of thatchers millions lol.

I dont feel so young now (89).

Ill make sure I have m beats down low when intimidating grannies at the coop. 😃

 

[richart]

You really think Welbeck has better pace and acceleration than Sterling ?! Really !

And Sterling and Lallana have great work ethic also - Sterling is non stop ? What about creativity ? Skill ? Ability to create something out of nothing and ghost past players !

Welbeck reminds me of Carlton Palmer but up front

Sorry there can only ever be one Carlton Palmer. Well I hope so. They both do/did a great headless chicken impersonation. I was watching some of the charity match last night, and someone said that one of the differences between Pros and amateurs, is that Pros look up, and don't need to watch the ball all the time when running with it. They know where it is. Could someone tell Welbeck please,.

 

[Foxholer]

A valid point in principle, although a bit arithmetically inaccurate!

A bit more than 'a bit'!!! 1978 Argentina!

I was going to edit to add its over 50 years since England played a world cup in South America.

Ah! that explains it.

Do World Cups that England doesn't play in not count! :rofl:

Werent brazil in 94 the first to win out of their continent? Amd it's not been hosted in South America since for it to change.

Mexico '86?

Is there some sort of UK blanking about anything to do with Argentina?

 

[Papas1982]

A bit more than 'a bit'!!! 1978 Argentina!



Ah! that explains it.

Do World Cups that England doesn't play in not count! :rofl:



Mexico '86?

Is there some sort of UK blanking about anything to do with Argentina?

in my defence I was only regurgitating something I'd once read. As anything pre Italian 90 is way before my time.

Having done my homework, Brazil winning in Sweden in 58 makes a mockery of my initial thoughts. Let alone Argentina lol

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Basically I believe it's no European team has won away from Europe ? Until Spain won in SA

 

[Papas1982]

Basically I believe it's no European team has won away from Europe ? Until Spain won in SA

Yeah that's true, but I read about if during 2002 so not sure what that was all about lol.

Having watched to confederations cup, I'd be surprised if a European won it.

 

[chrisd]

in my defence I was only regurgitating something I'd once read. As anything pre Italian 90 is way before my time.

Having done my homework, Brazil winning in Sweden in 58 makes a mockery of my initial thoughts. Let alone Argentina lol

You young whippersnappers ........... !! I remember watching the '66 final in good old black and white

 

[Papas1982]

You young whippersnappers ........... !! I remember watching the '66 final in good old black and white

I'e vey seen it in black and white too! How did you guys cope? Non hd is bad enough lol

 

[FairwayDodger]

I'e vey seen it in black and white too! How did you guys cope? Non hd is bad enough lol

Never mind the black and white telly..... where was the goal line technology when we needed it!!!?

 

[BubbaP]

Quote Originally Posted by Papas1982
Werent brazil in 94 the first to win out of their continent? Amd it's not been hosted in South America since for it to change.


Mexico '86?

Don't believe Mexico is in South America

 

[Slime]

Don't believe Mexico is in South America

Mexico is in the continent of North America ............................ boooooooooooooooom.


Slime.

 

[Papas1982]

Don't believe Mexico is in South America

I belive he had answered 3 questions there and was suggesting that in 86 Mexico hosted a wc and Argentina won. Proving that teams had won out if their continent. Don't believe he was including Mexico as a South American country.

having re re read his post, it's clear that's what he meant as he refers to us forgetting anything to do with Argentina.

 

[Foxholer]

Having watched to confederations cup, I'd be surprised if a European won it.

While I agree with the sentiment, it's a whole different ball game when 2 different styles are involved. Brazil particularly has a 'tradition' of playing too loosely at the back allowing the European mini-bus style to thwart them. The classic (though again England wasn't there, but New Zealand, and Nothern Ireland were ) was in Spain in '82 when their phenomenal attack (Socrates, Zico, Falcao et al) lost to a Rossi hat-trick!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

While I agree with the sentiment, it's a whole different ball game when 2 different styles are involved. Brazil particularly has a 'tradition' of playing too loosely at the back allowing the European mini-bus style to thwart them. The classic (though again England wasn't there, but New Zealand, and Nothern Ireland were ) was in Spain in '82 when their phenomenal attack (Socrates, Zico, Falcao et al) lost to a Rossi hat-trick!

England were at 82

Robson scored against France after about 20 secs and they got knocked out in the second group stage on goal difference

 

[Papas1982]

While I agree with the sentiment, it's a whole different ball game when 2 different styles are involved. Brazil particularly has a 'tradition' of playing too loosely at the back allowing the European mini-bus style to thwart them. The classic (though again England wasn't there, but New Zealand, and Nothern Ireland were ) was in Spain in '82 when their phenomenal attack (Socrates, Zico, Falcao et al) lost to a Rossi hat-trick!

Europeans played in the confederations cup. Spain looked destroyed by the heat last year. Are you confusing it with copa America?

also, Brazils style under scolari is a lot more European. Win first, style later.

 

[FairwayDodger]

While I agree with the sentiment, it's a whole different ball game when 2 different styles are involved. Brazil particularly has a 'tradition' of playing too loosely at the back allowing the European mini-bus style to thwart them. The classic (though again England wasn't there, but New Zealand, and Nothern Ireland were ) was in Spain in '82 when their phenomenal attack (Socrates, Zico, Falcao et al) lost to a Rossi hat-trick!

Possibly the best team at a world cup that didn't actually win it! (Although Ron Conker might disagree, with some justification, given the Netherlands '74 and '78 teams)

 

[Foxholer]

Don't believe Mexico is in South America

Mexico is in the continent of North America ............................ boooooooooooooooom.

Check the 'back-reference' and you'll see the statements were in reply to 2 separate posts!

Thanks Papas