And then joined Newcastle and won nowt.
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richy
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Thanks for reminding me Brian
Although he was one of the best if not the best striker in he league for a number of seasons with us
Foxholer
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And individuals get picked for the National team.
And it may not be the 'best' individual either as it's still down to the Manager to select the best player that fits the way he wants the team to play.
The Shearer analogy was pretty much perfect btw. Having ticked that particular (League Title) box, no-one was in any doubt where Shearer wanted to play the rest of his Football!
I fundamentally disagree with Robson's attitude to the Gerrard/Lampard 'challenge'. I believe that while you can steer/mould a player towards a particular role (and some with true 'vision' can see a completely different role too) it's very difficult - especially at National level - to prevent a player from playing their 'natural' role. And Gerrrard and Lampard had so much of an overlap in that that they were always destined to occasionally 'get in each others way' and leave a gap elsewhere. My solution would be to play one for 60-65 minutes and then sub for the other. Both really good-great players, but I would rate Gerrard slightly higher - for no particularly analysed reason though! A whole season's familiarity with Henderson should help both of them too!
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Beezerk
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So did Chris Sutton :rofl:
Foxholer
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Actually saw Sutton in one of his early games for Celtic and he was pretty much the star player that evening (certainly better than the thug he looked at Chelsea) - though Latapy was quite impressive and the crowd was amusing jeering Agathe who had come in to Hibs and transferred out to Celtic in a matter of weeks/days! For anyone else who attended, the whining noise was my Gran spinning in her grave! The game was pretty dire though - a scoreless draw. Highlight of the night was when Latapy looked like he might have a chance getting the ball at halfway with Celtics fullbacks up on attack, so only the Goalie to beat. But, to much uproar, his little legs couldn't go fast enough and they easily caught him!
DanFST
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What's everyones projected lineup for Saturday?
Hart
Johnson-Jagielka-Cahill-Baines
Gerrard-Henderson
Milner - Rooney - Welbeck
Sturridge
Thats what I think it will be, relatively happy with it. But would prefer Lallana instead of Welbeck on the left.
Hart
Johnson-Jagielka-Cahill-Baines
Gerrard-Henderson
Milner - Rooney - Welbeck
Sturridge
Thats what I think it will be, relatively happy with it. But would prefer Lallana instead of Welbeck on the left.
Think Lallana will start he's creative but probably seen by Roy as slightly more disciplined than alternatives, and it'll be Milner or Welbeck.
Beezerk
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Lallana has to start IMO, he's impressed a lot in all the games he's played for England.
Rooter
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does anyone other than Roy rate Welbeck? i think he is utterly useless.
My personal opinion is that, like the ITV commentators, Roy cant tell him and sturridge apart, so he picks them both, just in case.
Barkley, Lallana, Sterling, Milner should all get the nod above welbeck.
My personal opinion is that, like the ITV commentators, Roy cant tell him and sturridge apart, so he picks them both, just in case.
Barkley, Lallana, Sterling, Milner should all get the nod above welbeck.
is rather neither Welbeck or Milner were near the team.
Welbeck seems to do ok for England though so rather him than Milner.
Welbeck is only in squad due to injuries. He'll probably start, but if subs impress then he may miss out against Uruguay.
Slime
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Rooter
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ok so thats 3 people...
richy
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Yeah and Fergie's never been wrong about a player before
He also chose Moyes. Everyone makes mistakes lol
fwiw I'm not sure who else is ahead if Welbeck for squad selection. But for starting line up I'd rather a handful of players.
HawkeyeMS
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My tuppence worth...
I think Gerrard is better than Lampard. I'm not going to try to justify it, it's just my opinion.
Wellbeck has always looked a bit like Bambi on ice to me, however, I thought he looked better in the last game. I still wouldn't start him though.
I think Gerrard is better than Lampard. I'm not going to try to justify it, it's just my opinion.
Wellbeck has always looked a bit like Bambi on ice to me, however, I thought he looked better in the last game. I still wouldn't start him though.
Slime
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Yes he has, he bought Djemba Djemba, duh!
And what about you? You ever been wrong before, I mean, ever?
Slime.
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richy
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Hundreds of times and that's my point. Just because fergie 'rates' him doesn't mean he is quality.
I hope he proves me and everyone on here who said he shouldn't start wrong.
FairwayDodger
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Here's a quote from a Scottish newspaper over the weekend. (And obviously we're not going to be there so are just jealous etc etc)
"When England qualified for the World Cup, there was a national acceptance of the fact they weren’t good enough to win it.
But the closer they get, the less they seem able to process this fact. They’re still cutting their team to the bone with their expectations. They have to be the most unrealistic realists on the planet."
"When England qualified for the World Cup, there was a national acceptance of the fact they weren’t good enough to win it.
But the closer they get, the less they seem able to process this fact. They’re still cutting their team to the bone with their expectations. They have to be the most unrealistic realists on the planet."
to to be fair, from what I've read on here and heard down the pub. I've not heard fans being unrealistic at all. Criticising welbeck, Milner and Johnson isn't having delusions of grandeur. We do have better options but injuries have meant they can't be selected.
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