he he used to be given a lot of stick, but I don't remember him being hated so much as welbeck can appear to be. He was mocked more than abused IMO.
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he he used to be given a lot of stick, but I don't remember him being hated so much as welbeck can appear to be. He was mocked more than abused IMO.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Heskey had momentum for sure - did he not run off the pitch once and into the stand - and the stand collapsed...
All I know is that when you finish your intl career as a striker there shouldn't be a goalkeeper in history with a better goals per game ratio than you achieved. Unfortunately for Emile, there is!
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c1973
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I'll see Emile Heskey and raise you Brian McClair. 50* odd caps without a goal then he got one when (this is the best bit) he was already past it!! Lol
I always said we would still be playing him out of sympathy if he never got that goal. Pretty sure Eddie Murphy done the voice over for him, cos he was a donkey!
*pretty sure it was 50, might have been slightly less or (more than likely) more.
Edit: 30 caps.
I always said we would still be playing him out of sympathy if he never got that goal. Pretty sure Eddie Murphy done the voice over for him, cos he was a donkey!
*pretty sure it was 50, might have been slightly less or (more than likely) more.
Edit: 30 caps.
Marshy77
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Hasn't Welbeck scored something like 8 in 20 games for England? That's a great record. I'd have been tempted to start him against Italy and see how he got on. By playing him out wide left and drifting in Rooney would play behind Sturridge to stop Pirlo from picking the ball up and also be far enough up top to case problems.
His record for England is pretty good, albeit they haven't been agaisnt anyone of real note yet. Scotland, Belgium, Sweden, San Marino and Moldova.
I dont one object to him being in the squad, just don't think he's the biggest goal threat.
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Heskey was abused everywhere he went by fans
But for a couple seasons for us he was unstoppable
The England game against Germany in 2001 he was machine that night
Welbeck not being fully fit will force Woy's hand to play Sterling and Lallana - that is a good thing
Rooter
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Stats can be misleading.
His 8 goals have come against:
Belgium - Friendly
Sweden- euro2012
San Marion x 2 - WC Qual
Sweden - Friendly
Scotland - Friendly
Moldova x 2 - WC Qual
Hardly tough or important games, but i suppose apart from world cups and Euros, we dont many important games..
Thik he scored 20 plus goals for you once didn't he?
i remember mocking him loads, but don't remember people as anti him as they are welbeck, especially considering Wellbeck has a far superior record.
He was a machine against Germany made his usual performances even more annoying, Owens record was always better playing with him too.
Sterling and and lallana would be my choice.
I agree to a point, the friendly goals aren't important.
Tournaments or qualifiers for the. Are IMO. That being said, being against Moldova and San Marino kinda negates that point somewhat!
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They were very much anti Heskey - a damn sight more than Welbeck.
Even the Liverpool fans thought he was toilet - Welbeck at least has the backing of the Mancs ( well some )
I wouldn't be doing any cartwheels about Welbecks record and Heskey a lot of time doing a lot of ( appropriate ) Donkey work for Owen to do the scoring - that can't be measured in stats.
Hacker Khan
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Then again I think Rooney hardly ever scores in the finals of championships nowadays. But then again, who does really for England?
HawkeyeMS
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Amongst all this talk of who should and shouldn't play, it's good to know that the stadium is ready 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ands-World-Cup-2014-opener-against-Italy.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ands-World-Cup-2014-opener-against-Italy.html
Maybe not, but to be fair, Wellbeck does plenty of donkey work and still manages a much better goals record.
Wel I can only speak from my experiences, but Heskey wasn't given as much stick that i saw.
Either way his injury could be a blessing IF we get a positive result against Italy without him.
Amongst all this talk of who should and shouldn't play, it's good to know that the stadium is ready
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ands-World-Cup-2014-opener-against-Italy.html
that is shocking!
But hey, giving world cups to countries that can't cope is all part of fifas sharing football with the world.
Slime
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It appears England have had a stroke of luck - looks like Welbeck is injured and will possibly be out of the Italy game
How utterly predictable :thup:
I, for one, hope that ALL England players stay injury free and available for whenever Hodgson requires them ......................... but then again, I AM an England supporter!
Slime.
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With a heavy Manc based bias in the opinion of course
Welbeck not playing is better for England - simple as that. So as an England supporter you should want your manager to put out the best team available to him - that doesn't include Welbeck or do you blindly follow
Beezerk
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I don't recall back then there being another quality striker to push Heskey for that 2nd forward role so people just had to accept it.
Now we seem to have a glut of young talent who are quite obviously much better than Welbeck hence the outcry.
HawkeyeMS
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At least he is an England supporter LP, unlike your good self (although I'm beginning to suspect that you actually are)
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Again I have an interest and my interest would certainly change if there was a shift away from the tried and tested - I spent the 80's and 90's supporting England until the Beckham and England media circus arrived into town and the endless nonsense posted in the media etc etc - it turned me off supporting England.
Hodgson has a chance to do something different than over the last decade or so - a chance to actually show the world with have talent that can play. Do that and go out there and get some enjoyment in England football team and things might actually look up.
