England Football Team - managers job

[Fyldewhite]

Gutted. Disappointed. Disillusioned. Still convinced that from a footballing view he would have shaken it all up and been a 100% improvement on Roy, McLaren and Capello. Can't believe he's fallen for the oldest trick in the book. Idiot really doesn't cover it.

The future? Well without my Bolton tinted spectacles on I'm really stumped. Howe? Untried, inexperienced. Southgate? Just wouldn't handle the media spotlight. Foreign? Don't think that will sit well with the current mood of the country. Good luck FA. Maybe Steve Bruce?
Still, on the bright side.....bring on World Cup 2018 :whoo:we'll have put all this behind us by then and will be major contenders. For the first fortnight anyway .

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Not defending him, didn't want him, so regardless of who was in charge I wouldn't of judged them after 1 game, totally pointless, in my opinion :thup:

That's all he got. I can't judge him on nothing else

Btw who did you want?

 

[garyinderry]

Big sam the yes man, couldn't say no to the money.

 

[Fyldewhite]

So you agree with me yet still feel the need to defend him?

We're talking about a manager who knows these players very well and his teams have played against them, it's hardly stepping into the unknown.

There was nothing in that performance where you could see very slight improvement in set up or performance. It was a very Hodgson like performance.

It was always going to be. Come in make 8 changes and lose and he would be castigated. It's a difficult job you know. I for one think Rooney would have been sidelined within a few games (Jose has played it the same way) and pace, youth would have been right in there....providing they did their jobs. All a moot point now but as others have said, one game is hardly a basis for criticism on the football level.

 

[sawtooth]

It should be Hoddle and he is older and wiser now.

Ex player (and a bloody good one at that) players will respect that and will try their best to impress him I reckon.

No coincidence last bunch were not top players - Allardyce, Hodgson, Capello, McClaren,

Think it will make a difference. Has to be English as well , no more foreign managers for the national team nonsense.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

It was always going to be. Come in make 8 changes and lose and he would be castigated. It's a difficult job you know. I for one think Rooney would have been sidelined within a few games (Jose has played it the same way) and pace, youth would have been right in there....providing they did their jobs. All a moot point now but as others have said, one game is hardly a basis for criticism on the football level.

Come on they were only playing Slovakia.

I watched the game and I think my opinion is fair and not unfair criticism.

Where were all these fresh ideas that he was supposed to be bringing with him?

Because in that game it looked no different apart from Kane not taking corners.....

 

[Deleted member 1740]

It should be Hoddle and he is older and wiser now.

Ex player (and a bloody good one at that) players will respect that and will try their best to impress him I reckon.

No coincidence last bunch were not top players - Allardyce, Hodgson, Capello, McClaren,

Think it will make a difference. Has to be English as well , no more foreign managers for the national team nonsense.

You can't beat a bit of xenophobia

 

[sawtooth]

You can't beat a bit of xenophobia

List of last Germany managers. All German, some pretty good footballers in that list as well.

Joachim Low
Jürgen Klinsmann
Rudi Völler
Erich Ribbeck
Berti Vogts
Franz Beckenbauer

Works for the Germans, why should we do it differently?

 

[Liverbirdie]

Think it will make a difference. Has to be English as well , no more foreign managers for the national team nonsense.

Why is it nonsense?

 

[Liverbirdie]

List of last Germany managers. All German, some pretty good footballers in that list as well.

Joachim Low
Jürgen Klinsmann
Rudi Völler
Erich Ribbeck
Berti Vogts
Franz Beckenbauer

Works for the Germans, why should we do it differently?

Maybe we should get a German then?

 

[sawtooth]

Why is it nonsense?

Its an embarrassment that we have to say to the world that we don't have one single coach capable of managing the national team.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Its an embarrassment that we have to say to the world that we don't have one single coach capable of managing the national team.

It may be embarassing, but after 50 years of under-achievement, mainly with Englishmen at the helm, you think it's nonsense to appoint a foreigner.

Loaded question alert - do you think Arsene Wenger could do a good job as England manager?

Damned if you, damned if you dont. :whoo:

 

[Deleted member 16999]

That's all he got. I can't judge him on nothing else

Btw who did you want?

Why judge him? Just state you had no faith in him and we'll never know.

I'd like to see us go for a top succesful young(ish) manager, Simeone or Pep, even Jose, if the FA are serious about the future they need to pay top dollar and none of this young English coach for the future alongside the new guy rubbish.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Its an embarrassment that we have to say to the world that we don't have one single coach capable of managing the national team.

We don't have the players either so not much point in worrying about the manager.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I'd like to see us go for a top succesful young(ish) manager, Simeone or Pep, even Jose, if the FA are serious about the future they need to pay top dollar and none of this young English coach for the future alongside the new guy rubbish.

The FA have pretty much nailed their colours to the mast with ST George's park investment and their idea of an Englishman as manager.

None of those 3 are ready for international management.l

 

[Cherry13]

A Few people have mentioned klinsmann, thing I find bizarre is some of those same people say to go foreign because it's the experience that counts. But when klinsmann got the job he had none what so ever.

He came in with a very definitive idea of a style (attacking), and set about changing some of the principles and 'distractions' around the team.

I don't see why England can't take the same risk with someone inexperienced, whether that be a G. Neville a Shearer or even someone like Les Ferdinand. Just someone who wants to adopt a style, and make his own mark on the team.

In light of the last few days I also find the suggestion of Hoddle baffling, this is a man who made wholly unacceptable comments and should thank himself lucky he has ever been able to rebuild a media career never mind get the biggest job in English football.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Maybe we should get a German then?

It went well for the Jock's didn't it

 

[Deleted member 1740]

List of last Germany managers. All German, some pretty good footballers in that list as well.

Joachim Low
Jürgen Klinsmann
Rudi Völler
Erich Ribbeck
Berti Vogts
Franz Beckenbauer

Works for the Germans, why should we do it differently?

Same could be said for club management, imagine the trophies Arsenal would've had with an English manager.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

The FA have pretty much nailed their colours to the mast with ST George's park investment and their idea of an Englishman as manager.

None of those 3 are ready for international management.l

Who says their not ready for international Football? I'd rather risk one of them than any of the Englishmen who get mentioned.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

A Few people have mentioned klinsmann, thing I find bizarre is some of those same people say to go foreign because it's the experience that counts. But when klinsmann got the job he had none what so ever.

He came in with a very definitive idea of a style (attacking), and set about changing some of the principles and 'distractions' around the team.

I don't see why England can't take the same risk with someone inexperienced, whether that be a G. Neville a Shearer or even someone like Les Ferdinand. Just someone who wants to adopt a style, and make his own mark on the team.

In light of the last few days I also find the suggestion of Hoddle baffling, this is a man who made wholly unacceptable comments and should thank himself lucky he has ever been able to rebuild a media career never mind get the biggest job in English football.

This is the problem when people divulge their personal religious beliefs, some will always be offended.

Hoddle's comments were wholly unacceptable but he's still should be allowed to make a living. He certainly talks a good game and he's probably England's best coach right now.