England Football Team - managers job

[Liverbirdie]

It went well for the Jock's didn't it

He didnt have the right..........ingredients.

Just cos it didnt work well with one, doesnt mean it wont work again.

What about big Phil Scolari? I mean apart from world cups, copa des Libertadores......just what has he won? TM-Jocko

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Who says their not ready for international Football? I'd rather risk one of them than any of the Englishmen who get mentioned.

Sorry, I doubt they'd be ready to give up CL and day to day management.

I agree with the quality of the English candidate's is poor.

 

[super hans]

Gutted. Disappointed. Disillusioned. Still convinced that from a footballing view he would have shaken it all up and been a 100% improvement on Roy, McLaren and Capello. Can't believe he's fallen for the oldest trick in the book. Idiot really doesn't cover it.

The future? Well without my Bolton tinted spectacles on I'm really stumped. Howe? Untried, inexperienced. Southgate? Just wouldn't handle the media spotlight. Foreign? Don't think that will sit well with the current mood of the country. Good luck FA. Maybe Steve Bruce?
Still, on the bright side.....bring on World Cup 2018 :whoo:we'll have put all this behind us by then and will be major contenders. For the first fortnight anyway .

Not all parts of our 'country' are racist

 

[Deleted member 1740]

He didnt have the right..........ingredients.

Just cos it didnt work well with one, doesnt mean it wont work again.

What about big Phil Scolari? I mean apart from world cups, copa des Libertadores......just what has he won? TM-Jocko

What about him?

I think Davie Moyes would do a great job

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Sorry, I doubt they'd be ready to give up CL and day to day management.

I agree with the quality of the English candidate's is poor.

They might if the money's right 😃

 

[super hans]

This is the problem when people divulge their personal religious beliefs, some will always be offended.

Hoddle's comments were wholly unacceptable but he's still should be allowed to make a living. He certainly talks a good game and he's probably England's best coach right now.

Exactly - people should never be allowed to criticise/mock people because of their disability/sexuality/nationality/skin colour, because that is something they cannot control - however, religion/politics etc is fair game IMO

 

[Fyldewhite]

Not all parts of our 'country' are racist

:thup:

 

[Pin-seeker]

The biggest issue is the FA have pretty much said the England manager will always be English due to their massive investment in St Georges park. On that basis there's a very small pool of managers to choose from that lacks real quality IMO.

I think it should be the best man for the job regardless of nationality.

If I was in charge I'd do all I could to entice Ancellotti. A proven winner.

If I was in charge and it had to be an Englishman then I think I'd go with Hoddle, the best of a bad bunch.

So you'd try & get the current Bayern Munich manager.
Why not go for Pep?

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Hoddle's comments were wholly unacceptable but he's still should be allowed to make a living. He certainly talks a good game and he's probably England's best coach right now.

But apart from 6 months at QPR in 2015 he hasn't managed a team for 10 years , wolves 2006 was his last job , he has been running his "academy" in Spain .

Hope Steve Bruce isn't in the running either, another very average manager. As is Southgate

I wouldn't be upset if Klinsmann or Gus H had a go

 

[Fish]

This is the problem when people divulge their personal religious beliefs, some will always be offended.

Hoddle's comments were wholly unacceptable but he's still should be allowed to make a living. He certainly talks a good game and he's probably England's best coach right now.

and it hurts to say but, he (Hoddle) started all the positive changes at Chelsea but then England nicked him, he got us playing good passing football and through that the silverware came and we/he then attracted players like Ruud who then attracted Vialli and Zola and the rest is history, as they say.

 

[freddielong]

This is the problem when people divulge their personal religious beliefs, some will always be offended.

Hoddle's comments were wholly unacceptable but he's still should be allowed to make a living. He certainly talks a good game and he's probably England's best coach right now.

Is Hoddle not making a living now, what about Ron Atkinson should he have been allowed to continue or Richard Keys and Andy Gray they were just unacceptable comments but you cannot stop them making a living right.

As far as we know Big Sam just made comments were the FA right to terminate his contract after all Sam has to make a living.

Hoddle shouldn't even be allowed on Television nether mind any were near the England managers chair

 

[freddielong]

and it hurts to say but, he (Hoddle) started all the positive changes at Chelsea but then England nicked him, he got us playing good passing football and through that the silverware came and we/he then attracted players like Ruud who then attracted Vialli and Zola and the rest is history, as they say.

The only reason Chelsea are were they are at the moment is Romans money and the only reason he bought Chelsea is because they were for sale as the club was in a mess it had nothing to do with Hoddle.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Whoever the FA choose we're in a mess with a lack of cohesion and direction. Sadly I don't see the bigger egos in the Englamd team buying into the Southgate way which doesn't bode well for the WC clashes. It needs a strong leader which Allardyce was and I'm struggling to find similar contenders that would be realistic England manager candidates

 

[SteveJay]

Not all parts of our 'country' are racist

No, but quite a lot are PATRIOTIC, thankfully.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Is Hoddle not making a living now, what about Ron Atkinson should he have been allowed to continue or Richard Keys and Andy Gray they were just unacceptable comments but you cannot stop them making a living right.

Hoddle is making a living in the media, only because people like you won't have him in English football. I didn't agree with his comments but I think he's served his time. Atkinson was punished and rightly so and has retired, keys and Gray lost their jobs too and are smashing it out in Qatar

As far as we know Big Sam just made comments were the FA right to terminate his contract after all Sam has to make a living.

Talking to potential investors about flouting the companys law's who pays you £3m pa, you deserve to be sacked.

Hoddle shouldn't even be allowed on Television nether mind any were near the England managers chair

In your opinion.

I'm certain Sam will be back in football before Xmas , not much of a punishment losing a job in football then getting another one in the most profile league.

 

[sawtooth]

It may be embarassing, but after 50 years of under-achievement, mainly with Englishmen at the helm, you think it's nonsense to appoint a foreigner.

Loaded question alert - do you think Arsene Wenger could do a good job as England manager?

Damned if you, damned if you dont. :whoo:

Wenger would.do the best he could with what we have. Would be playing some nice stuff too.

Put it this way, if he was made head of the FA 20 years ago instead of joining Arsenal it would.be different now.

Look at what he has done with Arsenal, transformed it from top to bottom. The same needs doing at the FA.

Need someone like him with a vision and autonomy to shake it up and do things differently. Reforming how kids get into football, how they train and think at a very early age, how to provide better facilities at grass roots, better diet, education is very important too.

He would probably insist on a greater percentage of English footballers playing in the premier league.

The FA have been rubbish really. All they have done is build a new stadium and training facility . And even balls'd that up by paying too much.

 

[Rlburnside]

Wenger would.do the best he could with what we have. Would be playing some nice stuff too.

Put it this way, if he was made head of the FA 20 years ago instead of joining Arsenal it would.be different now.

Look at what he has done with Arsenal, transformed it from top to bottom. The same needs doing at the FA.

Need someone like him with a vision and autonomy to shake it up and do things differently. Reforming how kids get into football, how they train and think at a very early age, how to provide better facilities at grass roots, better diet, education is very important too.

He would probably insist on a greater percentage of English footballers playing in the premier league.

The FA have been rubbish really. All they have done is build a new stadium and training facility . And even balls'd that up by paying too much.

Also it was built in the wrong place, never should have been Wembley, Midlands should have been the farthest south it should have been built.

 

[Hobbit]

What's with the love-fest for Hoddle? Apart from a bit of punditry he's got no recent experience of managing a team. A good pundit doesn't make a good manager, e.g. Neville and Shearer.

Some of the arguments earlier in the thread revolved around exposure to European football. That's another no for Hoddle.

As to his comments about the disabled. It shows an attitude of mind and a lack of judgement. No, no, and thrice no.

 

[Junior]

Realise its only another media outlet saying this but apparently there is a bit more devil in the detail. He was at his agents office to discuss a foreigner (be a key note type speaker) and was offered $400k. he said he'd take it if the FA approved, and then went on to say football agents are bent, Roy Hodgson is a **** and Gary Neville is a **** manager.

I guess it will all come out in the wash, but if this is the case for the defence, well, to me it just looks like a reasonable one and the media have entrapped him good and proper.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

What's with the love-fest for Hoddle? Apart from a bit of punditry he's got no recent experience of managing a team. A good pundit doesn't make a good manager, e.g. Neville and Shearer.

Some of the arguments earlier in the thread revolved around exposure to European football. That's another no for Hoddle.

As to his comments about the disabled. It shows an attitude of mind and a lack of judgement. No, no, and thrice no.

:thup: