EGU Says Relax Dress Codes and Allow Mobile Phones

[Doon frae Troon]

My extreme view ?! I do believe it is you calling people uneducated in social skills - i do believe it is you that is dealing in extreme views. I will leave you to your extreme views and im glad the game of golf is trying to drag itself into the modern world.

Finally got it right.
I cant quite get my head round how being polite and courteous is now an 'extreme view'. I can understand that some folk might find it old fashioned though.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Finally got it right.
I cant quite get my head round how being polite and courteous is now an 'extreme view'. I can understand that some folk might find it old fashioned though.

And you made the extreme view about mobile users without realising that people that user mobile phones can also be polite and courteous and people arent uneducated in social skills because they use their mobile. Maybe lets not judge golfers that way because i havent ever witnessed on a golf course or in the clubhouse what you describe.

 

[G1BB0]

I actually look forward to golf as its a great opportunity to spend a few hours without someone txting, chatting or playing flappy birds!!!! I turn mine off and leave in the car, I am playing golf so

 

[Foxholer]

why ? what is the difference between someone quickly saying something on the phone to two people chatting ?

Actually, to me, someone chatting on a phone anywhere - even at normal volume - stands out, therefore disturbs me. Though I don't necessarily mean 'upsets'. It's seems to be one of those peculiarities - one side of a conversation stands out, while an entire one doesn't! I believe there may also have even been studies done on it!

Some phone conversations can be rather important. I was out with an interesting group a while back. Having just come from some sort of Billionaires get-together, one of them (Muslim, but maybe that's unimportant) kept dropping back to receive calls after about the 12th hole. The other (Jewish, but that's equally unimportant) explained that he was attempting to keep Northern and Southern Sudan from splitting apart!

However, my first encounter with the 'No Phones' on the course..... notice on the board was at Muirfield. A member walking past commented 'We come here to escape them!'!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

And you made the extreme view about mobile users without realising that people that user mobile phones can also be polite and courteous and people arent uneducated in social skills because they use their mobile. Maybe lets not judge golfers that way because i havent ever witnessed on a golf course or in the clubhouse what you describe.

Oh dear ...you have got it wrong again......... .it's overuse

I have witnessed overuse only once by a guy who who a few months later smashed up a golf cart when he was drunk as a skunk. He was then thrown out of the club.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Actually, to me, someone chatting on a phone anywhere - even at normal volume - stands out, therefore disturbs me. Though I don't necessarily mean 'upsets'. It's seems to be one of those peculiarities - one side of a conversation stands out, while an entire one doesn't! I believe there may also have even been studies done on it!

Some phone conversations can be rather important. I was out with an interesting group a while back. Having just come from some sort of Billionaires get-together, one of them (Muslim, but maybe that's unimportant) kept dropping back to receive calls after about the 12th hole. The other (Jewish, but that's equally unimportant) explained that he was attempting to keep Northern and Southern Sudan from splitting apart!

However, my first encounter with the 'No Phones' on the course..... notice on the board was at Muirfield. A member walking past commented 'We come here to escape them!'!

Thats an important phone call.

I play golf with two building developers and they are constanlty doing deals or building works are going on - need their mobiles on all the time but always show respect to others.

 

[Old Skier]

How did all these busy people manage before mobile phones. Oh that's right, they used the phones in their place of work. Unless you are calling the emergency services there is no real excuse for using a mobile on the course, in the club house or in a restaurant.

All these very important people. It's amazing how they all find time to play golf.

 

[evahakool]

My only bad experience of playing with a friend who used his phone on the course was a right pain,he took three calls and every time he stopped walking on the fairway whilst talking,I tried to hurry him as there were others coming behind, I would rather phones not be used on a golf course but understand sometimes they might be needed so I wouldn't like to see a ban on them.

My concern is that if it comes the norm to allow phones gradually more people would start to use them and I think this will lead to a minority spoiling it for others.

 

[Foxholer]

All these very important people. It's amazing how they all find time to play golf.

Well, having access via the phone, does actually allow them to be in contact - should it be necessary.

I play golf with two building developers and they are constanlty doing deals or building works are going on - need their mobiles on all the time but always show respect to others.

I know another bunch, that includes a few property developers and equivalent 'dealers', who allow phones, but the first to use it - across 2 or 3 groups, pays for the half-way house for the entire bunch. They've never get near the half-way house to test what happens if nobody uses one!

 

[triple_bogey]

Some of you really need to worry more about what you are doing and less about what everyone else is doing (and letting it affect your emotions) imo. Me checking my phone a few times in a 4 hour period, you most likely wont even realise I have done and if you do it will be when Im walking other side of fairway etc from everyone else (ill be the one on the left haha) so really shouldnt be affecting anyone else unless they choose to be horrrified by the sight of a mobile phone (on silent) on a golf course in the 21st century. If you are that hung up on things like this maybe you are a bit too on edge for me to play with anyway.

Thread should had ended with this :thup:

 

[HarryMonk]

Relaxing dress codes in the club house after a round I can see, but jeans on the course?. I'm not part of the old brigade I just feel if you are going to do a sport you should at least be dressed for that sport. If you have a kick about at football in the park then jeans are fine but you wouldn't wear them in a match. Even playing Sunday cricket you are expected to wear whites.

Totally agree people who want to take part will adhere to dress code, jeans and hoodies would be wrong on so many levels

 

[Slab]

Weirdly and despite the 230 posts and several pages of mild escalation I think broadly everyone actually agrees with each other!

It’s just that it’s bogged down on the polar extreme scenarios of what could happen on the course

No one’s arguing for a complete ban on electronic devices (after all how do you know if someone’s updating twitter or getting a GPS distance) and no one’s suggesting that Trigger Happy phone guy is fun to play with and would doubtless be more than a little distracting

Yet the thread is degenerating because we analyse posts to the nth degree getting into semantics about the words or syllables used in posts in a futile attempt to get others to change their opinion, which as I’ve already said is pretty much the same anyway (And when was the last time anyone changed their point of view on here!)

So the result of change might be a little uncertain but being for/against change just because of the possible actions of the 1% of the polar extreme scenarios is not really sufficient reason not consider it

So... if I’m very very discrete and really really considerate and promise not to distract other players...










Can I wear jeans on the course?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

So... if I’m very very discrete and really really considerate and promise not to distract other players...



Can I wear jeans on the course?

Only if I can wear my plain brown pimple soled Timberland trainers that look like golf shoes.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

But, anyone using a phone on the course needs to be aware that what they are doing could annoy.

Which is the bottom line - it shouldn't actually matter whether the phone user thinks it silly or whatever - they should just be able to accept that some golfers would find 'casual' mobile phone use (reading, speaking, texting - whatever) just a bit irritating and distracting. And that should be enough to confirm that mobile phone use should be limited as discussed and if possible discrete - so for instance not whilst walking down the middle of the fairway.

Etiquette in it's broadest sense is merely about showing respect and putting others at ease - and that is all that is being asked.

 

[garyinderry]

and yet the EGU are asking clubs to drop their mobile ban so that sensible users are not hounded or deemed to be rule breakers when discretely using their phones.

I have yet to meet anyone that has taken the Michael with mobile use on the course!

 

[Jack_bfc]

I undestnad the worries of 'phone usage'

I get my iphone out 2 or 3 times every hole.

I use Golfshot app for distances etc, then log my score as I walk down the following fairway. It may look like im texting etc...

Is this still unacceptable????

 

[upsidedown]

I undestnad the worries of 'phone usage'

I get my iphone out 2 or 3 times every hole.

I use Golfshot app for distances etc, then log my score as I walk down the following fairway. It may look like im texting etc...

Is this still unacceptable????

To a certain extent yes, I keep stats but do it after my round back at home. When we're walking down the fairway that for me is the chatting to FC time, provided they too want to chat , as we know there are some who don't .

 

[Slab]

To a certain extent yes, I keep stats but do it after my round back at home. When we're walking down the fairway that for me is the chatting to FC time, provided they too want to chat , as we know there are some who don't .

But isn't a reluctance to chat to an FC also a breach of etiquette

 

[upsidedown]

But isn't a reluctance to chat to an FC also a breach of etiquette

One of the worst

 

[bluewolf]

To a certain extent yes, I keep stats but do it after my round back at home. When we're walking down the fairway that for me is the chatting to FC time, provided they too want to chat , as we know there are some who don't .

I'm quite happy chatting, checking the phone, walking and breathing at the same time... But I do only check the phone a few times per round.. I like to chat, breathe and walk a lot more often..

As an aside, I'll quite often take out the phone to take a picture or 2. I've also been known to video a swing (when asked, I don't want mine recorded thank you very much..).