Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Similar principles to motorway driving, the better the spacing the more consistent the speed & the overall journey time is reduced
Do you think this is a valid solution to slow play?
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Similar principles to motorway driving, the better the spacing the more consistent the speed & the overall journey time is reduced
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Actually more similarities to driving exist
What about this for a radical idea, slow the fast groups down! That’s right get the BMW players to slow their pace (everyone likes a good stereotype) Start giving them a minimum time to complete the round & if they come in under that then DQ them (they are a hazard and disrupt the pace)
On another point I know that a few courses have a cumulative time noted on the scorecards for players to check their pace on every hole (mine doesn’t) & if I was a slow player & wanted to be bolshie I’d challenge the club on this say I’ve no idea how long it’s supposed to take as you’ve made no effort to tell me I wonder how many clubs have even bothered to work this out for their course?
Sorry if this is straying slightly from the OPs point but I feel it’s related
What about this for a radical idea, slow the fast groups down! That’s right get the BMW players to slow their pace (everyone likes a good stereotype) Start giving them a minimum time to complete the round & if they come in under that then DQ them (they are a hazard and disrupt the pace)
On another point I know that a few courses have a cumulative time noted on the scorecards for players to check their pace on every hole (mine doesn’t) & if I was a slow player & wanted to be bolshie I’d challenge the club on this say I’ve no idea how long it’s supposed to take as you’ve made no effort to tell me I wonder how many clubs have even bothered to work this out for their course?
Sorry if this is straying slightly from the OPs point but I feel it’s related
bobmac
Major Champion
So to cure slow play, you want everyone to play slowly?
I do hope you weren't being serious
bladeplayer
Money List Winner
What caused the 10/12 groups to keep time was awareness , they were ready to play when it was their turn , if they are just off the green they bring the wedge & the putter , not walk over chip , walk back put the wedge away , take out the putter , cover off then go mark the ball , read the line etc, bring the 2 clubs , chip, mark & ready to putt in the lenght of time it would take to walk back & get the putter , look at your line when others in the group are putting out , if even slower players can save 1 min per hole your in 18 mins earlier ,
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
@ Bobmac, I was thinking that.
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
lol I must've missed that bit in the forum guidlines that said just twist posts round to make the poster sound a twonk
I said slow the fast groups down not play slowly even with limited years playing this game I've seen folks/groups tearing up the course & by nature of being let through they cause the groups being passed to extend their round time & shuffle them back
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Ok I get it now, in your initial post it was a hypothetical situation that after 10/12 groups had passed then there was an unstated reason why slow play started but you’d failed to mention that the groups after this weren’t ready to play, didn’t take a putter etc etc Yup that’s slow players all right & they should get hammered for it
Some great replies and it is good to know that I am not alone with my thoughts regarding traditions and this not being the solution to slow play.
Very interesting reading.
Very interesting reading.
bobmac
Major Champion
lol I must've missed that bit in the forum guidlines that said just twist posts round to make the poster sound a twonk
I said slow the fast groups down not play slowly even with limited years playing this game I've seen folks/groups tearing up the course & by nature of being let through they cause the groups being passed to extend their round time & shuffle them back
Apologies, I must of mis-read this bit
That’s right get the BMW players to slow their pace
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
No your fine Bob that bits correct, using my driving analogy to get the stereotyped BMW driver to slow their pace (not drive slowly) i.e on a motorway reduce from 90 to 70 not 90 to 40 (the latter being just as crazy on a golf course as it would be on a motorway)
bobmac
Major Champion
So I should have written "slower" not "slowly" ?
Your original point was it might be an idea to not speed up the slower players but to slow down the fast players to match the slower players slow speed?
Would that not mean all the cars would then be in the slow lane?
Or did you mean the faster players should drive a bit less fast and the slow players drive a bit less slow, but then they would all be in the middle lane.
Or were you thinking dual carriageway?
In which case the slower fast players would need to be in the inside lanes in front of the fast slow players but behind the slow faster players, whereas the outside lane would be reserved for............
Lost interest now
Your original point was it might be an idea to not speed up the slower players but to slow down the fast players to match the slower players slow speed?
Would that not mean all the cars would then be in the slow lane?
Or did you mean the faster players should drive a bit less fast and the slow players drive a bit less slow, but then they would all be in the middle lane.
Or were you thinking dual carriageway?
In which case the slower fast players would need to be in the inside lanes in front of the fast slow players but behind the slow faster players, whereas the outside lane would be reserved for............
Lost interest now
richart
Major Champion
How is your BMW these days Bob ?
bobmac
Major Champion
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
By choice?
chrisd
Major Champion
Funny enough this is what they do on the M25 during peak hours. They know where the bottle necks are and they slow approaching traffic, so as to stop the faster drivers getting to the bottlekneck quicker which by all counts helps keep traffic flowing better and also reduces the number of accidents.
I absolutely cant see any way this would help on a course though and I think when the group behind say anything about being slow the answer is " we kept up a slow pace just to make you lot feel quick"
Chris
bladeplayer
Money List Winner
Fixed that for ya BobFine thanks Richard. It never goes
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
So I should have written "slower" not "slowly" ?
Your original point was it might be an idea to not speed up the slower players but to slow down the fast players to match the slower players slow speed?
Would that not mean all the cars would then be in the slow lane?
Or did you mean the faster players should drive a bit less fast and the slow players drive a bit less slow, but then they would all be in the middle lane.
Or were you thinking dual carriageway?
In which case the slower fast players would need to be in the inside lanes in front of the fast slow players but behind the slow faster players, whereas the outside lane would be reserved for............
Lost interest now
Bob I’m fairly sure you knew exactly what I meant but were narked about being publicly picked up on your method of reply
Let me just say, I’m truly am sorry if as a new member I failed in any duty upon joining if I was supposed to doff my cap to long standing members/ site management or prolific posters before expressing an opinion (perhaps you are a BMW owner and are offended by my reference to the stereotype, well I can (& do) apologise for bringing it up but I didn’t start the association/analogy it's tarred with
I’m sure given the nature of some of my posts & as a newbie to this forum some will think me (if thinking of me at all) as a slow player trying to defend his position or a troll trying to stir things
Well by way of introduction, Slab’s the name & I’m a high handicapper who’s recently become besotted with this game & play 1-2 rounds per week with the current aim to break 90 (so yes sometimes it will take me 4 to reach a green)
Been hanging round this forum as a visitor for some months but decided to join only recently
I’m also lazy, so shortest/quickest solution for me every time, that means I always take putter & wedge to the other side of the green & trolley will always be left en-route to next tee because I don’t want to drag it one foot more than I really need to
On a quiet course in good conditions I’ll go round in a little under 3hrs as a two ball adding another 10-15 for a poor round or bad weather (or add 30 for a poor round in bad weather
)Longest round this year (& I’m ashamed of it was 4:30 for a three ball) when we all played shocking (but did not hold anyone up)
I’m not a traditionalist preferring a progressive club/course however either through my own ignorance or naivety of the game/running a course I have opinions on what I see as poor management/conditions at some of the places I’ve played & I tend to think that without the sound basic structure in place then it’s little wonder some players decide to play at a pace that suits them & it frustrates me to be behind a slower group just as much as anyone else (last time out being stuck behind a scramble who took what seemed an age to decide which was the best ball)
In short clubs must get their own house in order before chastising slow players
Bob I also apologise if I’ve caused you to lose interest in what is an interesting thread
Dodger apologies for this post interfering in the flow of your topic
ArnoldArmChewer
Tour Winner
Slow play eminates from slow players, medal or stableford they will still be slow!! Keep with tradition.
bobmac
Major Champion
So much for my attempt at humour 
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
If this is about trying to keep even spaces between groups then as soon as someone fires a ball OB it all goes to Rat-Poo......
It assumes everyone plays at the same pace which is clearly impossible. On a Motorway you can, within reason get everyone going at the same speed. In Golf it's just not going to happen.
