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Bluewolf,Liverpoolphil read the first page of this thread if what they are saying isnt liberal elitism ie. the majority is out of step with us so they are wrong, what is?? Delc, you are part of the problem what the Papers you quote are doing is reflecting what their readership wants if they didnt they would soon go out of business.. Once again you are all out of step.
 
Bluewolf,Liverpoolphil read the first page of this thread if what they are saying isnt liberal elitism ie. the majority is out of step with us so they are wrong, what is?? Delc, you are part of the problem what the Papers you quote are doing is reflecting what their readership wants if they didnt they would soon go out of business.. Once again you are all out of step.
There were a grand total of 11 posts before yours.. Just how "Liberally Elitist" do you think this forum is? Have a look at all the recent threads surrounding Brexit and Trump/Clinton.. I'm sure you'll see that the vast majority of this forum is Centre Right, with a select few Far Right thrown in.. There is a minority Centre Left presence (along with a few Far Left for balance)..

This breakdown is exactly what would be expected from a Forum that represents Golf Clubs up and down the land.. We play a Sport that is dominated by middle aged, middle class, white people (not a criticism, just a fact).. If the Political leaning was any other way I'd be amazed...
 
There were a grand total of 11 posts before yours.. Just how "Liberally Elitist" do you think this forum is? Have a look at all the recent threads surrounding Brexit and Trump/Clinton.. I'm sure you'll see that the vast majority of this forum is Centre Right, with a select few Far Right thrown in.. There is a minority Centre Left presence (along with a few Far Left for balance)..

This breakdown is exactly what would be expected from a Forum that represents Golf Clubs up and down the land.. We play a Sport that is dominated by middle aged, middle class, white people (not a criticism, just a fact).. If the Political leaning was any other way I'd be amazed...

About one-third of our golf club is not white. We have quite a few South Asians and a few Eastern Asians. Mostly professional people I have to add.
 
We do live in interesting times. Recent events on both sides of the pond have given a legitimacy to the values expressed by The Daily Mail. And those of us who do not subscribe to it's values are labeled as the out of touch liberal elite.

Most people know my views on the paper and that will probably not change, no matter how out of touch I am. I personally am a heartened to see the campaign against hate journalism and total respect to lego, but again wonder how much credence and traction it will gain in the current political climate. It's a bit like the old put down of 'Tory' when anyone says anything slightly right wing has been replaced by the claim of 'liberal elite' when you do not subscribe to The Daily Mail, both figuratively and literally.
 
We do live in interesting times. Recent events on both sides of the pond have given a legitimacy to the values expressed by The Daily Mail. And those of us who do not subscribe to it's values are labeled as the out of touch liberal elite.

Most people know my views on the paper and that will probably not change, no matter how out of touch I am. I personally am a heartened to see the campaign against hate journalism and total respect to lego, but again wonder how much credence and traction it will gain in the current political climate. It's a bit like the old put down of 'Tory' when anyone says anything slightly right wing has been replaced by the claim of 'liberal elite' when you do not subscribe to The Daily Mail, both figuratively and literally.

I can't imagine anybody with even a hint of decency and humanity subscribing to the views of the xenophobic tabloid gutter press! :rolleyes:
 
We do live in interesting times. Recent events on both sides of the pond have given a legitimacy to the values expressed by The Daily Mail. And those of us who do not subscribe to it's values are labeled as the out of touch liberal elite.

Most people know my views on the paper and that will probably not change, no matter how out of touch I am. I personally am a heartened to see the campaign against hate journalism and total respect to lego, but again wonder how much credence and traction it will gain in the current political climate. It's a bit like the old put down of 'Tory' when anyone says anything slightly right wing has been replaced by the claim of 'liberal elite' when you do not subscribe to The Daily Mail, both figuratively and literally.
Oh dear! Hopefully you will get over it, 'The Times they are a changin' as they say. I feel a reciprocal campaign needs starting, we could put an open letter in 'Yogurt Knitting Monthly' on behalf of the Daily Mail supporters league insisting that none of our members visit Lego Land or get our hair cut by The Brazilian Hairdresser (Deir Dos Santos) until this policy of Hate Crime against DM readers by the Liberal Elite is brought before the Thought Police. . On a personal note I have burned my copy of 'A Year in a Yurt'


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Oh dear! Hopefully you will get over it, 'The Times they are a changin' as they say. I feel a reciprocal campaign needs starting, we could put an open letter in 'Yogurt Knitting Monthly' on behalf of the Daily Mail supporters league insisting that none of our members visit Lego Land or get our hair cut by The Brazilian Hairdresser (Deir Dos Santos) until this policy of Hate Crime against DM readers by the Liberal Elite is brought before the Thought Police. . On a personal note I have burned my copy of 'A Year in a Yurt'


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The problem is that many Daily Mail readers believe what they read - actually, truly and unquestioningly - what the DM says is the truth. End of.

And as a paper it is without equal in misreporting or scaremongering on medical matters. My Mrs has almost to keep a watch on what the DM is saying about Breast Cancer as she knows she will have women and their partners forming incorrect views and expectations and calling her up complaining. And she has to spend time countering what the DM has said - and correcting the 'facts' as presented by that paper.

Not quite sure where I sit on the political spectrum - actually on some things I might be far left - on others centre left etc - I even may have some right of centre views. Because my views are not grounded in any political hue. But sure is heck I struggle to read the DM - and when Stephen Glover is spouting his stuff - well...
 
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Have you asked them all :whistle:

I found one once - she couldn't deny it - she had it in her hands - nobody else I know admits to it. I am sure there are some secret DM readers I know. They needn't be afraid - there is a cure. They just have to admit that reading the DM is an addiction and that they are powerless under it's spell. They can then be helped.
 
It has become very obvious that most posters on this thread look down on Mail readers and consider themselves superior and in the right whilst every Mail reader is a rabid racist, Misogynist and Homophobe. And that every thing the Paper is drivel made up by fantasists.. All this about the Newspaper voted by the London Press club as Paper of the year 2016, the 4th time it has won it since 2003, no other paper has won it more that once. So my question to you all is if the the Mail is that good and its support is so huge where does that leave all your hate for it AND if, as you say the Mail is so bad where does that leave the rest of the written media??? and dont get me started on the BBC..
 
It has become very obvious that most posters on this thread look down on Mail readers and consider themselves superior and in the right whilst every Mail reader is a rabid racist, Misogynist and Homophobe. And that every thing the Paper is drivel made up by fantasists.. All this about the Newspaper voted by the London Press club as Paper of the year 2016, the 4th time it has won it since 2003, no other paper has won it more that once. So my question to you all is if the the Mail is that good and its support is so huge where does that leave all your hate for it AND if, as you say the Mail is so bad where does that leave the rest of the written media??? and dont get me started on the BBC..

No please do. I would like someone to give examples of BBC bias compared with a balanced and informative coverage of a story by The Mail. I'm all ears.

As of for the rest of papers then yes they (mostly) all have a political bias and slant on stories. Anyone knows that. And I think part of that is down to the echo chamber effect where as more and more people get their news from social media that is effectively self curated. So they only see views from people or organisations they agree with. Thus reinforcing their views and even making them stronger, especially if they start believing the fake and exaggerated stories that both sides make up in the further reaches of social media. So papers have to compete in this market now, being reasonable, balanced, informative and dare I say vaguely liberal does not cut it nowadays. It is just the way the Mail does this by stiring up resentment and fear that offends some, including my bad self. They sow some very troubling and divisive seeds IMHO. You may well see through them, but many may not. My beef is against the way the paper operates and its values, not necessarily the readers.

We could end up in a position of falling circulation where papers basically have to copy curated social media news/lies and downright fantasies to survive, which is scary to me.
 
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And if we do live in a world of curated social media news and newspapers going more and more to the left of right then I believe the need for the BBC is even stronger. As a voice of relative neutral commentary and insight. I think the fact that both the left and right complain about it's bias says it must be doing something right.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...mocratic-plan-to-reform-the-bbc-a7018936.html
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/17/bbc-leftwing-bias-non-existent-myth
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-press-baron-foe-evidence-Left-wing-bias.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...ON-Shock-Horror-BBC-boss-admits-s-biased.html
 
It has become very obvious that most posters on this thread look down on Mail readers and consider themselves superior and in the right whilst every Mail reader is a rabid racist, Misogynist and Homophobe. And that every thing the Paper is drivel made up by fantasists.. All this about the Newspaper voted by the London Press club as Paper of the year 2016, the 4th time it has won it since 2003, no other paper has won it more that once. So my question to you all is if the the Mail is that good and its support is so huge where does that leave all your hate for it AND if, as you say the Mail is so bad where does that leave the rest of the written media??? and dont get me started on the BBC..

So, tell me what do you think of the Mail story of Corbyn dancing a jig on his way to the Cenotaph?
 
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