Imurg
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So Pierced Organ is going to be happy then......
Coronavirus - political views - supporting or otherwise...
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Best quote of the whole period:
: "We didn't ask who we could blame, we asked how we could fix it" Mr Hancock 1 May 2020
: "We didn't ask who we could blame, we asked how we could fix it" Mr Hancock 1 May 2020
SocketRocket
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Yes I guess so, especially if you are looking for a reason to tarnish it. Again, for me its tests or even tests available that count here, not the test results.
ColchesterFC
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That's an interesting point. In the early days when they were only testing people admitted to hospital were the numbers based on the number of people that had been tested that day or the number of lab results that had been returned?
Hacker Khan
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I missed the conference today but one of the 1st agenda items we have in any governors meetings is to ask if anyone has any vested interests that they need to declare that will influence what they say later on in the meeting. Just wondering if Matt Hancock declared any interests on apportioning any blame before this statement today? If not then no worries, we can pick it up before the Daily telegraph approves the minutes on the front page tomorrow.
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Number in the Lab, they didn’t include the amount of test kits available in the hospital for each ward, just those kits that had been actually used to carry out a test.
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It was a scientist who gave the figures
Foxholer
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Classic 'political spin'! And, in this case, far too easily called as 'dishonest' by the media. But will they?!
I wouldn't be surprised if even the 88k figure was 'manipulated'! But a great achievement all the same!
However, 'both sides' do it! The 'Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics' quote springs to mind far too often these days!
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Pedant Alert time:
Hancock announced the overall figure, the scientist gave the breakdown.
Hancock: 'We have met our goal'
https://news.sky.com/video/share-11981904
Foxholer
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It was a politician who 'interpreted' them!
ColchesterFC
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Cheers for that. I'm assuming that means there's a lag in the number of tests each day as not all the tests will reach the lab on the same day they were taken? I'm assuming that these testing centres aren't just 9 to 5 so someone getting tested at 9pm is unlikely to be included in that days' figures by the time the test gets to the lab.
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Was it
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Not sure were the test centres send their kits mate.
But going by today and the update this week the testing kits sent to the centres on a daily basis will count whether they’ve been used or not.
drdel
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The Government target was to achieve the capability of 100K tests. There is no way they could set a target of 'completed tests' because that is entirely dependent on the demand which is not within their control.
The UK now has the ability to conduct 100k tests which is a agreat achievement in the timescale. If we never need to use the facility that would be great, however an instrinsic part of moving out of the social controls is the ability to monitor and to finely target geographic areas of infection.
The UK now has the ability to conduct 100k tests which is a agreat achievement in the timescale. If we never need to use the facility that would be great, however an instrinsic part of moving out of the social controls is the ability to monitor and to finely target geographic areas of infection.
Imurg
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I'm struggling to understand something...
Deaths in care homes are going through the roof so to speak...
If there is a downward trend of hospitalizations and capacity in ICUs....
Why are these people not being carted into the ICUs as soon as it becomes apparent that they need the treatment..?
Or am I missing something..?
Deaths in care homes are going through the roof so to speak...
If there is a downward trend of hospitalizations and capacity in ICUs....
Why are these people not being carted into the ICUs as soon as it becomes apparent that they need the treatment..?
Or am I missing something..?
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pendodave
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I'm not a doctor but.... Many people in care homes are very old and not well. I suspect the chances of them surviving the move to a hospital and the intensive treatment required are pretty slim.
I think this makes sense, but perfectly willing to hear a better theory.
Hacker Khan
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Not sure I see the word capability here?
The tweet was supposed to be interpreted based on your voting intentions. Some may see the word capability, some may see a definitive promise, who can say what the truth is.
ColchesterFC
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In which case that's a very poor manipulation of the figures - imo. I'm sure that if they'd come out and said we set ourselves an ambitious target of 100k tests a day by the end of April and we carried out 88k tests yesterday. In addition we have sent out X thousand home testing kits and supplied X thousand of extra kits to testing stations, bringing the total to 122k. Most people would have accepted that and possibly even praised the efforts that had gone in to it. Unfortunately the government, and Matt Hancock in particular, have left themselves open to accusations of of giving misleading figures or outright lying.
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I’m not sure of todays figure from Public Health England (PHE) for Covid-19 deaths outside of hospital or what the breakdown of what day they “actually” died.
The chart below (hopefully it will enlarge) gives the daily figures but only 2 totals from PHE.
A lot of the deaths now being reported from care homes could be historical.
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