Coronavirus - political views - supporting or otherwise...

[PJ87]

Txt from wife. She works in a school that's shut

Her mum's is open

Yeah mums schools is gonna do 10 kids a class for reception year 1 and 6 if they have to go back
So instead of 9 classes it’ll be 27classes and no set learning more a child care base like it is not as it won’t be there teachers

 

[sunshine]

To make it crystal clear

Calling someone or referring to someone as a witch is completely out of order and sanctions will be taken against anyone using that term.

Other terms like witch-hunt are ok if used in context

End of discussion, let’s move on please

Just for clarification, what are you wearing in your avatar photo? You're not dressed as a witch by any chance?

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Just for clarification, what are you wearing in your avatar photo? You're not dressed as a witch by any chance?

Darth Fragger, thought it was obvious ?

 

[Pathetic Shark]

Darth Fragger, thought it was obvious ?

Always two there are. Never more. Never less. A master and an apprentice. But which is the master and which is the apprentice?

 

[chrisd]

Darth Fragger, thought it was obvious ?

Close - I always assumed it was Daft Fragger ?

 

[Hobbit]

Close - I always assumed it was Daft Fragger ?

With his diet I thought it was Drafty Fragger.

 

[Slab]

Always two there are. Never more. Never less. A master and an apprentice. But which is the master and which is the apprentice?

Following on, I did wonder if I should post this in this thread but half the posts are a joke anyway so here goes:

 

[Deleted member 21258]

Clusters reappearing in Wuhan.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-wuhan-idUSKBN22N24F

How are they going to test 11million in 10 days, that is some processing from get it from the people, to performing the actual lab test.

Come on UK up your game.

 

[Wolf]

Clusters reappearing in Wuhan.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-wuhan-idUSKBN22N24F

How are they going to test 11million in 10 days, that is some processing from get it from the people, to performing the actual lab test.

Come on UK up your game.

Its China they won't test 11m in 10 days but they may tell us that they did ??‍

 

[pendodave]

Clusters reappearing in Wuhan.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-wuhan-idUSKBN22N24F

How are they going to test 11million in 10 days, that is some processing from get it from the people, to performing the actual lab test.

Come on UK up your game.

Don't have an opinion either way on the testing, but if a population 1/6 the size of the UK is put under house arrest for 6 weeks (or whatever it was) and they still can't get rid of it, then I wonder what plan B is.

 

[clubchamp98]

Txt from wife. She works in a school that's shut

Her mum's is open

Yeah mums schools is gonna do 10 kids a class for reception year 1 and 6 if they have to go back
So instead of 9 classes it’ll be 27classes and no set learning more a child care base like it is not as it won’t be there teachers

Yes so they need three times the classrooms and teachers.
That’s ok while it’s just two years in school.
But it’s fitting year 2/3/4/5 in where are they going to go.
I think they will not go back any time soon.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

British Common Sense,
Here is the Wee Dug to give you his take on it.

https://weegingerdug.wordpress.com/

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I get why we must get back to work if we can; I get why we must avoid using public transport at the moment if at all possible; I get why we wouldn't want groups to be gathering in parks; I get why it is appropriate for some to be able to drive a short distance to somewhere they can exercise relative 'safely'. I get all that. And they all work fine for me - as I get them each individually, and I am fortunate that living my life as I do and where I do they don't clash. However where I can see confusion for some is around trying to rationalise the science that is behind each of them - as they can be contradictory.

A lady who does childminding can do that for a child not her own, but cannot visit a grandchild who lives in a separate house from her? Workers can congregate at work in groups (size unlimited?) whilst observing social distancing requirements, but can't meet up with parents or family in the local park? I can drive as far as I want to exercise but can't if I want to just meet a friend or relative? I can drive to a beauty spot for exercise but when I get there if it is busy and social distancing is likely to be difficult then I must not stay? And when I am visiting a beauty spot and toilets are not open - then what? We have a couple of builders working on the outside of the house at the moment. They are keeping separate. And we can stop and talk with them both. But we can't stop and talk with my daughter and her b/fried unless he is my contact and my daughter is my wife's. Maybe.

I do not have an issue with any of these examples (and there are a multitude more). We are able to live within the guidelines and constraints and we are not looking to push any boundaries. Indeed my wife has this morning been asked by a closest friend if she wants to go for a walk on Friday, my wife would probably rather not in the context of coronavirus, although she'd dearly love to walk and talk with her close friend. She has not yet decided what to do. But that's just us. We are very fortunate.

However, if I look to find and understand the science underpinning what has now been advised in the examples being applied consistently I do struggle. And for those for whom what we have been advised raises conflicts I can see where real confusion on what to do comes.

And confusion raises fear. And in fear we often either do nothing, or do irrational things.

The government has told us that not a lot has changed (though asking us to go to work if we can is for many a massive change and challenge) - and so I feel that if nothing much has changed, then there really was no need to change the headline message - a message that we have come to know and understand.

 

[Slab]

British Common Sense,
Here is the Wee Dug to give you his take on it.

https://weegingerdug.wordpress.com/

He doesn't seem to have any take on the virus

Maybe just the way I read the opening paragraphs but I think that fella might have a political bias in his blog (if not pro-something he’s definitely anti-conservative) It takes quite an edge off the chances of him saying anything of value as regards the virus

Its like a vegetarian writing an objective blog about sausages or a Rangers fan writing about Celtic, there's really nowt of value going to be said

 

[Foxholer]

Close - I always assumed it was Daft Fragger ?

Why would he have needed the outfit and makeup in that case?

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Why would he have needed the outfit and makeup in that case?

And this relates to the thread somehow?
Cmon guys, back on track now
Darth Fragger has spoken ??

 

[SocketRocket]

I get why we must get back to work if we can; I get why we must avoid using public transport at the moment if at all possible; I get why we wouldn't want groups to be gathering in parks; I get why it is appropriate for some to be able to drive a short distance to somewhere they can exercise relative 'safely'. I get all that. And they all work fine for me - as I get them each individually, and I am fortunate that living my life as I do and where I do they don't clash. However where I can see confusion for some is around trying to rationalise the science that is behind each of them - as they can be contradictory.

A lady who does childminding can do that for a child not her own, but cannot visit a grandchild who lives in a separate house from her? Workers can congregate at work in groups (size unlimited?) whilst observing social distancing requirements, but can't meet up with parents or family in the local park? I can drive as far as I want to exercise but can't if I want to just meet a friend or relative? I can drive to a beauty spot for exercise but when I get there if it is busy and social distancing is likely to be difficult then I must not stay? And when I am visiting a beauty spot and toilets are not open - then what? We have a couple of builders working on the outside of the house at the moment. They are keeping separate. And we can stop and talk with them both. But we can't stop and talk with my daughter and her b/fried unless he is my contact and my daughter is my wife's. Maybe.

I do not have an issue with any of these examples (and there are a multitude more). We are able to live within the guidelines and constraints and we are not looking to push any boundaries. Indeed my wife has this morning been asked by a closest friend if she wants to go for a walk on Friday, my wife would probably rather not in the context of coronavirus, although she'd dearly love to walk and talk with her close friend. She has not yet decided what to do. But that's just us. We are very fortunate.

However, if I look to find and understand the science underpinning what has now been advised in the examples being applied consistently I do struggle. And for those for whom what we have been advised raises conflicts I can see where real confusion on what to do comes.

And confusion raises fear. And in fear we often either do nothing, or do irrational things.

The government has told us that not a lot has changed (though asking us to go to work if we can is for many a massive change and challenge) - and so I feel that if nothing much has changed, then there really was no need to change the headline message - a message that we have come to know and understand.

This comes over to me as a post by someone with too much time on their hands so overthinking everything. Also if you're Wife goes for a walk with her Friend isnt she breaking the law ?

 

[Foxholer]

This comes over to me as a post by someone with too much time on their hands so overthinking everything. ...

It does highlight some 'illogicalities' though!

... Also if you're Wife goes for a walk with her Friend isnt she breaking the law ?

Isn't that the same as (or a least equivalent to) a (non-familial) 2-ball playing a round of golf? It would be wrong, imo, if one was illegal and the other was not!

 

[SocketRocket]

It does highlight some 'illogicalities' though!

Isn't that the same as (or a least equivalent to) a (non-familial) 2-ball playing a round of golf? It would be wrong, imo, if one was illegal and the other was not!

It only highlights ilogicalalities if you are looking for them, it's like saying I can shop in a supermarket but why not in a clothes shop.

One has been authorised and one hasn't. You can meet up with another person in a park for example as long as you stay 2 meters apart, theres been nothing said about taking a walk together.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

This comes over to me as a post by someone with too much time on their hands so overthinking everything. Also if you're Wife goes for a walk with her Friend isnt she breaking the law ?

It's simply suggesting why some find the government message and 'directives' confusing and difficult as I hear quite a lot from folks saying the messaging is clear. We know what my Mrs wants to do is not breaking a 'law'. However just mentioning that as we will be taking a cautious approach to getting out and about with others even when allowed.