Coronavirus - political views - supporting or otherwise...

[bluewolf]

I find it very strange that the entirety of the British media has failed to bring these indefensible actions to the attention of the British public. Is there a conspiracy?

Probably because the journalist/investigator of this story only part-leaked it late last night with the proviso that the data was still being analysed as it was very data heavy. He has stated several times that he wants to “gold plate” it for us non geeks so as to avoid it being steamrollered by vested interests.

Or, it could be bollocks. No one quite knows yet so it’s not being pounced on just yet ?

 

[Hobbit]

Hang on Bri. This is wartime remember. Loose lips sink ships and all that. We’re not here to criticise. And what are your sources? Is it some damn lefty again? Then bloody smelly lefties just want us all to die. ???

Sssh! If I tell you I'll have to kill you.

That aside, I came off the phone about 45 mins back after speaking to a senior sister in an ITU not a million miles away from Homer. I asked about PPE. They have everything they need but the masks are uncomfortable for a full 14 hour shift. She's gone out and bought her own... sounds like the troops in Iraq.

 

[Old Skier]

Sssh! If I tell you I'll have to kill you.

That aside, I came off the phone about 45 mins back after speaking to a senior sister in an ITU not a million miles away from Homer. I asked about PPE. They have everything they need but the masks are uncomfortable for a full 14 hour shift. She's gone out and bought her own... sounds like the troops in Iraq.

We were buying our own kit long before Iraq

 

[AmandaJR]

Sssh! If I tell you I'll have to kill you.

That aside, I came off the phone about 45 mins back after speaking to a senior sister in an ITU not a million miles away from Homer. I asked about PPE. They have everything they need but the masks are uncomfortable for a full 14 hour shift. She's gone out and bought her own... sounds like the troops in Iraq.

They look incredibly uncomfortable and I saw a picture of two nurses coming off duty and their faces were so red and sore looking from them.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Probably because the journalist/investigator of this story only part-leaked it late last night with the proviso that the data was still being analysed as it was very data heavy. He has stated several times that he wants to “gold plate” it for us non geeks so as to avoid it being steamrollered by vested interests.

Or, it could be bollocks. No one quite knows yet so it’s not being pounced on just yet ?

Is it just me, am I the only person that thinks Mr O'Connell may have taken someone's bait.

The dodgy tweet he quoted included #BANTHECLAP. Really?

Interestingly The Independent, a publication not renowned for its support of the Government, seems more than a little sceptical.

We shall have to see if he produces any evidence to support his story.

 

[bluewolf]

Is it just me, am I the only person that thinks Mr O'Connell may have taken someone's bait.

The dodgy tweet he quoted included #BANTHECLAP. Really?

Interestingly The Independent, a publication not renowned for its support of the Government, seems more than a little sceptical.

We shall have to see if he produces any evidence to support his story.

Very possibly ?

 

[drdel]

On PPE...

Government looking to sources of raw materials and makers who can produce at scale.

Many of the UK companies in the press that are complaing about applying to supply are too small and /or are new starups acting as middle men operating on a wing and a prayer.

Suppliers need to have the capability in their supply chain for millions of SKU's per week.

The EU consortium the UK was asked to join has not shipped any items.

 

[Fish]

We were buying our own kit long before Iraq

I was buying from Silvermans in the 70’s, sewed in seams on all my trousers, NI boots & gloves before my first tour but we used them for UN in Cyprus as std gear was heavy and sore.

 

[Fish]

They look incredibly uncomfortable and I saw a picture of two nurses coming off duty and their faces were so red and sore looking from them.

Here’s a trick for them.....

Buy a head sweatband, sew 2 large buttons on each side, then instead of hooking the ties over the ears, which become sore, hook them on the buttons ?

 

[Old Skier]

I was buying from Silvermans in the 70’s, sewed in seams on all my trousers, NI boots & gloves before my first tour but we used them for UN in Cyprus as std gear was heavy and sore.

NI patrol boots, best thing ever to come out if it kit wise.

 

[User62651]

The EU consortium the UK was asked to join has not shipped any items.

I think today's stooshie was more about Gove lying about the reason for not joining with EU on this some weeks ago if the FCO guy is right. Seems for this Govt anything that could be seen as a reliance on the EU, no matter how small, even in a global crisis, is an instant no no, no matter if British lives depended on it, that's purely political because of the B word and a pretty awful move too. It is unsurprising sadly but where the UK has fallen to.

 

[drdel]

I think today's stooshie was more about Gove lying about the reason for not joining with EU on this some weeks ago if the FCO guy is right. Seems for this Govt anything that could be seen as a reliance on the EU, no matter how small, even in a global crisis, is an instant no no, no matter if British lives depended on it, that's purely political because of the B word and a pretty awful move too. It is unsurprising sadly but where the UK has fallen to.

I think you're looking for stuff that ain't there: the UK is an associate member of the EU consortium. The consortium has not yet managed to ship any items.

 

[User62651]

I think you're looking for stuff that ain't there: the UK is an associate member of the EU consortium. The consortium has not yet managed to ship any items.

Rumour is the FCO guy is now writing to retract what he said earlier, if true clearly got at by Cumming's enforcers.

 

[Old Skier]

Rumour is the FCO guy is now writing to retract what he said earlier, if true clearly got at by Cumming's enforcers.

Senior simple servant wouldn't be bothered by the likes of Cummings

 

[Old Skier]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1252266724449230848

More indefensible actions from the government.

Not yet proven then, even by independent organizations

https://fullfact.org/online/evidence-network-fake-nhs-tweets/

 

[User62651]

Senior simple servant wouldn't be bothered by the likes of Cummings

The letter is now out with 'clarification' but so is the original video by McDonald. Some kind of pressure applied from the top.
Hancock getting set up for the boot too, scapegoats required.
That's just regular politics of course but it's been a tough spell for Govt last wee while.
Maybe some vaccine positives thankfully.

 

[Old Skier]

The letter is now out with 'clarification' but so is the original video by McDonald. Some kind of pressure applied from the top.
Hancock getting set up for the boot too, scapegoats required.
That's just regular politics of course but it's been a tough spell for Govt last wee while.
Maybe some vaccine positives thankfully.

BBC seems to be missing out. The mastermind Laura twitted 40 min ok that they were still waiting for clarification.

 

[bluewolf]

Not yet proven then, even by independent organizations

https://fullfact.org/online/evidence-network-fake-nhs-tweets/

Yes, I covered that earlier in my response to Rosecott (I think).

I have no idea if it’s true, but the response se from Fact-check doesn’t know if it’s true either.

 

[SocketRocket]

Rumour is the FCO guy is now writing to retract what he said earlier, if true clearly got at by Cumming's enforcers.

So I guess he couldnt have just got it wrong as that's what it looks like he's saying.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

So I guess he couldnt have just got it wrong as that's what it looks like he's saying.

There’s no defence. People in high office/position of authority when speaking to the public, under the circumstances should not being “getting things wrong”.