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I am attacking the messenger as it was a message that didn't need delivering as you couldn't be bothered to publish the counter to the article.
The reason the articles needing highlighting is the newspaper they were in. If they were in the Observer then sure - well it would say that. But they weren’t - and it was not a single article. They were not all about Johnson. And they were in a Tory supporting newspaper.

And as I was very deliberately NOT taking a position why should I go looking for government response. Others can do that if they so wish. There has been a response to the main article. I have read and valid points are made. What about the Leader comments on an Exit Plan and the Brexit transition?
 

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More indefensible actions from the government.

Whatever the rights or wrongs of the Government currently, that is absolutely shocking (if proven - and it looks fairly damning). Heads must roll for that, if nothing else.

I don't know whether the Tweet is authentic or not, nor am I too fussed in debating the content. However, I will make an observation and ask a rhetorical question or two.

Double bluff/fake accounts, some originating from Russia, are not unheard of. And if this is genuinely from the Tory party, why aren't Labour screaming from the roof tops? The fact that Labour aren't making hay out of this says something too. There was a dodgy Tweet before the last election, which the Tories were nailed forby the main stream media, inc the BBC. Why isn't this one receiving the same treatment?

I prefer to get my news from trusted sources, and I don't consider Twitter to be one of them. If a mainstream, trusted source picks this up, runs with it and proves it lets all grab our pitch forks but until then...
 

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I see Tony Blair is sticking his big nose/mouth in once more wanting "specialist czars" in charge of different areas. So basically another level of top bureaucracy and gimmicks to whatever the Government is already doing. Thanks Blair - stick to living on your millions and sod off.

Oh aye. is that not just what this government has done re NHS procurement, or is that different.:unsure:
 

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I don't know whether the Tweet is authentic or not, nor am I too fussed in debating the content. However, I will make an observation and ask a rhetorical question or two.

Double bluff/fake accounts, some originating from Russia, are not unheard of. And if this is genuinely from the Tory party, why aren't Labour screaming from the roof tops? The fact that Labour aren't making hay out of this says something too. There was a dodgy Tweet before the last election, which the Tories were nailed forby the main stream media, inc the BBC. Why isn't this one receiving the same treatment?

I prefer to get my news from trusted sources, and I don't consider Twitter to be one of them. If a mainstream, trusted source picks this up, runs with it and proves it lets all grab our pitch forks but until then...
Some good points, and exactly why I qualified my post..

However, the fact that it broke on Twitter is not uncommon. Whether we like it or not, Twitter is now the main source of news for millions of people. Journalists from the MSM down to the single person blogger use Twitter to highlight stories before they break. Just look at the use of Twitter to highlight the recent ST condemnation of the Governments handling of the Covid crisis so far. Also, many MSM journalists are now freelance and use Twitter to bring attention to a story they are working on so that it is then picked up by the MSM.

I agree that it's going to be interesting to see where this story goes. It's picking up traction currently after only really breaking last night (after the Papers would have gone to print).
Edit... For anyone who hasn't read the "article". It's alleging that someone at the DoHSC has set up approximately 140 fake accounts pretending to be NHS staff, then used these accounts to claim that everything is fine. They've used real staff images and details without their consent.
 
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The reason the articles needing highlighting is the newspaper they were in. If they were in the Observer then sure - well it would say that. But they weren’t - and it was not a single article. They were not all about Johnson. And they were in a Tory supporting newspaper.

And as I was very deliberately NOT taking a position why should I go looking for government response. Others can do that if they so wish. There has been a response to the main article. I have read and valid points are made. What about the Leader comments on an Exit Plan and the Brexit transition?
You do it all the time, publish something that is damning the current government which wasn't your choice and then come up with the not me guv response. Perhaps you should change your barber.
 

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So just where is the PPE that was announced in Saturday's Downing Street briefing that was due on Sunday? Stories emerging that the Minister responsible for the briefing on Saturday lied... or was it misspoke? Reports emerging that it wasn't even ordered at that point.

Reports emerging in the English speaking Spanish media that the Turkish government is up in arms about the strong arm tactics for an order that wasn't even placed till yesterday. And the RAF aircraft that was sent to get it, when was it sent?

If, as is being mooted, the Minister went off piste in the briefing; I hope loopy Laura K asks some very pointed questions.
 

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So just where is the PPE that was announced in Saturday's Downing Street briefing that was due on Sunday? Stories emerging that the Minister responsible for the briefing on Saturday lied... or was it misspoke? Reports emerging that it wasn't even ordered at that point.

Reports emerging in the English speaking Spanish media that the Turkish government is up in arms about the strong arm tactics for an order that wasn't even placed till yesterday. And the RAF aircraft that was sent to get it, when was it sent?

If, as is being mooted, the Minister went off piste in the briefing; I hope loopy Laura K asks some very pointed questions.
Like " when will the lockdown end"...:unsure::confused:
 
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So just where is the PPE that was announced in Saturday's Downing Street briefing that was due on Sunday? Stories emerging that the Minister responsible for the briefing on Saturday lied... or was it misspoke? Reports emerging that it wasn't even ordered at that point.

Reports emerging in the English speaking Spanish media that the Turkish government is up in arms about the strong arm tactics for an order that wasn't even placed till yesterday. And the RAF aircraft that was sent to get it, when was it sent?

If, as is being mooted, the Minister went off piste in the briefing; I hope loopy Laura K asks some very pointed questions.

The RAF C140 took off on Monday to Turkey to pick up gowns and PPE

Was expected back today
 

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...ns-pieces-ppe-shipped-britain-europe-despite/

Who knows - but it seems the Telegraph are saying we are shipping PPE out of the country

Could be specific items that we can share out, who knows. Untill reporters ask sensible questions at the daily brief we won't know untill the wash up.

I would like to know if Trusts are short, why aren't the trusts named and why aren't there CEOs on the box complaining.

What company's are not getting responses from the government when they are offering PPE, I would have thought company bosses would be on the media giving it large.

What really went on with the Turkey affair.

Why is the take up really not working on testing. Looks like the government will be very close to hitting the testing TARGET but that's completely different from tests done which the media don't appear to grasp.
 

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So just where is the PPE that was announced in Saturday's Downing Street briefing that was due on Sunday? Stories emerging that the Minister responsible for the briefing on Saturday lied... or was it misspoke? Reports emerging that it wasn't even ordered at that point.

Reports emerging in the English speaking Spanish media that the Turkish government is up in arms about the strong arm tactics for an order that wasn't even placed till yesterday. And the RAF aircraft that was sent to get it, when was it sent?

If, as is being mooted, the Minister went off piste in the briefing; I hope loopy Laura K asks some very pointed questions.
Hang on Bri. This is wartime remember. Loose lips sink ships and all that. We’re not here to criticise. And what are your sources? Is it some damn lefty again? Then bloody smelly lefties just want us all to die. ???
 
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