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Liverpoolphil said:
Priests - anyone preaching
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Don't know anything about priests as I have never spoken with one. And anyone preaching? - well there's quite a sweeping generality. I best check with my own minister to find out what will happen to me if my thinking strays from the path because I don't believe that I've ever been told. Must be missing something - feel left out.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
So the answer is no :thup:

To prove there is no God - show me him or her or where I can see God
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Nah - instead how about you proving to me that there is no God as you are so sure that one doesn't exist in any real or spiritual form. We can feel and see the effects of what we call gravity, and we can describe it mathematically based upon our developed theories of astrophysics - but can you show me gravity? Why then must I prove the existence of a God by showing you him/her/it - and might not even be an 'it'?

I don't really care if you don't believe in a God but you can't tell me one doesn't exist - sorry.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Nah - instead how about you proving to me that there is no God as you are so sure that one doesn't exist in any real or spiritual form. We can feel and see the effects of what we call gravity, and we can describe it mathematically based upon our developed theories of astrophysics - but can you show me gravity? Why then must I prove the existence of a God by showing you him/her/it - and might not even be an 'it'?

I don't really care if you don't believe in a God but you can't tell me one doesn't exist - sorry.
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I can tell you one doesn't exist just like you can say you believe the fictional character exists

The only place someone called God exists is in fictional books and films - no one has ever shown me any different

I can see gravity at work - you can't see God at work
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I can tell you one doesn't exist just like you can say you believe the fictional character exists

The only place someone called God exists is in fictional books and films - no one has ever shown me any different

I can see gravity at work - you can't see God at work
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I can - maybe you are just not looking in the right place :)
 
People have a right to believe in whatever belief mechanism they wish, whether that be a religion, the sun, moon, Jedi or none of the above.

It is not our place to pour scorn on these beliefs, asking someone who believes in God to prove God exists is utter nonsense.

Please respect other members beliefs

thanks
 
PhilTheFragger said:
People have a right to believe in whatever belief mechanism they wish, whether that be a religion, the sun, moon, Jedi or none of the above.

It is not our place to pour scorn on these beliefs, asking someone who believes in God to prove God exists is utter nonsense.

Please respect other members beliefs

thanks
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thankyou sir :thup:
 
PhilTheFragger said:
People have a right to believe in whatever belief mechanism they wish, whether that be a religion, the sun, moon, Jedi or none of the above.

It is not our place to pour scorn on these beliefs, asking someone who believes in God to prove God exists is utter nonsense.

Please respect other members beliefs

thanks
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Does that not also count towards people asking to prove there is no God ?

And also for people who have "faith in God" to respect people who think its a lot of nonsense ?
 
Liverbirdie said:
Bugger.

A surprising amount of people who absolutely deny the existence of God, believe in the other two. I like that argument.
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Can quite clearly see that as well - can't dismiss the existence of one whilst believe the other exsist unless you have been to Area 51 ;)
 
PhilTheFragger said:
People have a right to believe in whatever belief mechanism they wish, whether that be a religion, the sun, moon, Jedi or none of the above.

It is not our place to pour scorn on these beliefs, asking someone who believes in God to prove God exists is utter nonsense.

Please respect other members beliefs

thanks
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
thankyou sir :thup:
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I believe it was SwingitlikeHogan who first threw the "God" card down so I'm disappointed by these posts that lean more to blaming LP in the first instance, the post should be more equally levelled but LP didn't ask the question first, SILH did to Ethan in #34!
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Does that not also count towards people asking to prove there is no God ?

And also for people who have "faith in God" to respect people who think its a lot of nonsense ?
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Grow up Phil,this is pathetic.
It's obvious no one can prove there is or isn't a god.
Just allow others to have their beliefs & you have yours. :thup:
 
IanG said:
We don't have to ALL do (or want to do) the same things in order for them to be natural. We are incredible complicated organisms and surely there is room for more than one set of behaviours & desires in humanity.

An ordered society requires that we set some limits on behaviours which are very damaging to others or the society more generally, e.g we don't allow a person with a proclivity to kill or steal to continue unsanctioned. Whether 'relations' with animals falls one side or other of the line we choose is a matter for the politicians.

In this area, labels and the words we use are important. Describing homosexuality as not natural is insulting and denigrates a section of our society which has already put up with generations of prejudice and abuse.
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Good post, I agree with what you say there... from one side of the road. As I said I don't care what people do, so with that in mind I'll put forward the suggestion that if someone naturally finds themselves drawn to someone of the same sex is that much different to someone who is drawn to a child? (forgetting for a moment that one is illegal) Is there really any difference behaviourally between the two on a 'mental/decision making' level?... some would even declare the latter a mental illness and not natural at all.
 
Pin-seeker said:
Grow up Phil,this is pathetic.
It's obvious no one can prove there is or isn't a god.
Just allow others to have their beliefs & you have yours. :thup:
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Oi, look back at the posts, why shouldn't he respond to SILH post #34 who first made the comment in reverse!
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Does that not also count towards people asking to prove there is no God ?

And also for people who have "faith in God" to respect people who think its a lot of nonsense ?
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When it gets to the proof/not proof level then there's going to be no winner. Having a faith isn't about proof. you can't prove there isn't and they can't prove there is. However, discussing religion VS non religion is a great subject when it doesn't get silly. :thup:
 
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