Aztecs27
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That was like me with my Mk4 Mondeo when I saw one of the new ones...That is until I sat in one...Put me right off them! Perhaps that's the answer?
(probably not, as the interior of the new XC90 looks awesome 
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That was like me with my Mk4 Mondeo when I saw one of the new ones...That is until I sat in one...Put me right off them! Perhaps that's the answer?
(probably not, as the interior of the new XC90 looks awesome )
Rooter
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That was like me with my Mk4 Mondeo when I saw one of the new ones...That is until I sat in one...Put me right off them! Perhaps that's the answer?
It's not at all! The new xc90 I would buy over the Audi and BMW. A truly stunning place to sit!
Aztecs27
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Thought as much! That is a lot of the reason I just bought the Lexus.
gripitripit
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Lovely driving position and view from my Range Rover and you are right. No intention of going off road especially with low profile 22" tyres. And again bang on with the mpg...22 to the gallon. But very comfortable all the same.
Smiffy
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I drove down through France last year on holiday in a new X-Trail 7 seater.
1.6 Diesel engine, and Automatic too. Got everything in there including all my fishing gear with masses of room to spare.
Superb comfort (no aches or pains after 5 hours non-stop), 80-90 most of the way down (just ticking over at 3,000 revs), and returned an average of 52.3 to the gallon.
I'm off again in 4 weeks time and will be taking the same motor again.
Not worried about the drive down at all.
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vkurup
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Had a look at the new Tiguan... very aggressively styles (was sitting in the R-line)... but the boot is tiny. It seems more like a souped up Golf rather than a big crossover. Earlier in the day had a look at the XC60. very spacious, but compared to the styling of the Tiguan, the XC60 feels ancient. Am looking fwd to taking a XC60 D4 2-wheel drive for a spin on Monday
Aztecs27
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Glad to hear about the tiny boot. Confirms we made the right decision in not waiting to try one (still not heard from the VW dealership for what it's worth!). Not that the boot in the NX is massive by any stretch but big enough for our needs.
I have an XC60 D4, 2WD, manual. Had it for 2 years now. If you have any questions fire away. As a freebie, in winter I get 40-42mpg, in summer 43-45mpg. On a motorway run you can get around 48mpg if you drive on or just under the limit. If you go over it drops quickly. Lovely cruiser and the best seats out there.
MC72
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I had an xc60 AWD for a couple of years and found it very practical, ie big boot, and comfortable for long journeys. The economy was around mid-late 30s mpg generally although may get into the 40s on a run (2.4D 5cyl engine). I had the manual and it was not a great car for those who enjoy driving, and didn't handle that well. Most accurate way of describing it would be "big comfortable barge". Volvo dealers are absolutely shocking, clueless and technically inept - probably not much different from most mainstream franchises. It's (xc60) miles behind most other brands now in terms of tech, and inside the car it does feel a generation behind the competition. I don't think I'd buy another Volvo.
MC - A big comfortable barge is a good description and frankly that is why I got one. If I wanted to go around hairpin bends at 60mph then I would get a German car. However I don't want to feel every bump in the road, I want to wallow and glide and the XC60 outdoes its German counterparts on that front. Also, if you want a drivers car do you really get an SUV? A different beast surely.
The dealers up in the NE, a closed shop unfortunately, are not good, no argument there. In terms of tech, the XC60 is next in line for an upgrade. All other models have been re-done recently. The main engine in the XC60, D4 it is catchily called, is new and the safety equipment is equal or ahead of all other mfrs. The central media display is poor except on the new XC90 and will presumably be rolled out onto other models over time.
The reality is Volvo do what they always do. They offer a genui9ne alternative to the Germans. They are not a drivers car, they are not cutting edge. They are damned comfortable though and they are a great place to eat miles on a long journey.
The dealers up in the NE, a closed shop unfortunately, are not good, no argument there. In terms of tech, the XC60 is next in line for an upgrade. All other models have been re-done recently. The main engine in the XC60, D4 it is catchily called, is new and the safety equipment is equal or ahead of all other mfrs. The central media display is poor except on the new XC90 and will presumably be rolled out onto other models over time.
The reality is Volvo do what they always do. They offer a genui9ne alternative to the Germans. They are not a drivers car, they are not cutting edge. They are damned comfortable though and they are a great place to eat miles on a long journey.
Rooter
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Next time yours is in the dealers for a service, go sit in the new XC90, seriously, i believe its a better car than the Q7, X5 and Range Rover.
Rooter - I wouldn't disagree with that. It looks a real step up in quality. Perhaps Volvo have poured money into this model because they know it will sell well in China and the US. My comments were more about the XC60. Incidentally, I would also suggest the new V90 is a real competitor for the Germans as well. I'm in for a service at the end of the month so I will be having a peruse then. Those two are out of my price range but a little sit in a nice car is always pleasant.
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vkurup
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Test drove the xC60, liked it. It is about 3 mth wait for a new one. Getting a used one v/s a new one does not make sense as the new ones are on 0% APR!!! The internals of the XC90 are way too good but with the XC60 being replaced in the next 2 years, it will get a facelift. The sales guys are fairly laid back as the XC90/60 sell by themselves
Stopped by to look at the new Tiguan. I liked the interiors better than the Volvo. The big shock was that it would fit my golf bag sideways!! It has some clever cutouts in the boot, which help get the (golf) driver head into it. Havent test driven it yet. The SL model is probably the one in contention rather than the R-line. Had to deal with a a bit more aggressive, young sales person who put us off. 2 month wait for a new one if not in stock
Final stop was to look at the Kia Sportage. They have changed everything inside and outside. I am not sure it was love at first sight. Will test drive it over the weekend. I could fit my sofa into the boot and still have space to play with. I need to be convinced about the sportage though the economic argument is hard to beat for it.
Stopped by to look at the new Tiguan. I liked the interiors better than the Volvo. The big shock was that it would fit my golf bag sideways!! It has some clever cutouts in the boot, which help get the (golf) driver head into it. Havent test driven it yet. The SL model is probably the one in contention rather than the R-line. Had to deal with a a bit more aggressive, young sales person who put us off. 2 month wait for a new one if not in stock
Final stop was to look at the Kia Sportage. They have changed everything inside and outside. I am not sure it was love at first sight. Will test drive it over the weekend. I could fit my sofa into the boot and still have space to play with. I need to be convinced about the sportage though the economic argument is hard to beat for it.
Don't just use the dealer. Try online places such as Drive the Deal. They use dealers and so on but they should get you the best discounts without having to speak to slimy salesmen. If you like the dealer then you can also use it as leverage. Based on the Volvo forum I dip into you should be able to get around 15-20% discount on an XC60. I suspect the Tiguan is too new to get much of a deal. I don't know about Kia's.
Have you looked at a Mazda CX-5? Worth looking at.
Have you looked at a Mazda CX-5? Worth looking at.
Aztecs27
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Be careful with the 0% APR deals that they've not over inflated the OTR price or given a horribly high guaranteed future value to compensate.
USER1999
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The barge I had was a bit more pokey. I think it was a 3 litre petrol, with a turbo. Flipping scary when using the kick down. Very squirmy.
Every time I have been in a four by four, I have hated the driving position, and that includes range rovers. I guess it's probably me!
USER1999
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Wrong about the engine, a 3.5 litre v6, with 270 horses, but no turbo. Still quick though.
Aztecs27
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Forgot you sold Nissan's mate. I should have enquired about the X-Trail as it's a nice looking car!
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Amen. I hate 4x4s (and SUVs) with a passion.
The ONLY reason to have one is if you need to seriously go off road..... wet leaves on your drive in Surrey or Cheshire do not count.
Aztecs27
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Or...if you need a larger hatched car and don't want a Mondeo, Insignia or an estate car.
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