Car Leasing

adam6177 said:
Amen. I hate 4x4s (and SUVs) with a passion.

The ONLY reason to have one is if you need to seriously go off road..... wet leaves on your drive in Surrey or Cheshire do not count.
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What about Berkshire? A friend of mine lives at the end of a dirt track.. plus 4 kids and 2 adults don't fit in much else and refuse to drive a people carrier.
 
Rooter said:
What about Berkshire? A friend of mine lives at the end of a dirt track.. plus 4 kids and 2 adults don't fit in much else and refuse to drive a people carrier.
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Took the words out me mouth Roots :clap:

My Nan & Grandad have a 4x4 because me Nan suffers from Arthritis and finds it easier to get in and out of a higher car.

This a legitimate enough reason Adam?
 
Lord Tyrion said:
The reality is Volvo do what they always do. They offer a genui9ne alternative to the Germans. They are not a drivers car, they are not cutting edge. They are damned comfortable though and they are a great place to eat miles on a long journey.
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Don't know about the current ones but the T5 derivatives were most definitely a driver's car.
 
From what I have seen 4x4's are very handy on the school run...
Guess they are easier to bump up the kerb for a spot of pavement parking...

The one's I don't really understand the point of are the one's that look like a fastback GT on steroids...
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Don't just use the dealer. Try online places such as Drive the Deal. They use dealers and so on but they should get you the best discounts without having to speak to slimy salesmen
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You sound like the type of "customer" us "slimy salesmen" love.
The type of "customer" who's only motivation when buying a car is how much discount you can get.
I have a few names for "customers" like you, one in particular.
I won't mention it on here because I'd get a lifetime ban.
I have been a "professional" car salesman for over 30 years. I pride myself on my honesty, integrity, and willingness to help a true customer.
I have made friends out of many of my customers, many come back to me time after time and would recommend me to their friends, family or colleagues.
Could you do us "slimy" salesmen one big favour?????
When the car you purchased from a dealer 200 miles away because he offered the biggest discount goes wrong, take it back there to get it repaired.
 
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Smiffy said:
Could you do us "slimy" salesmen one big favour?????
When the car you purchased from a dealer 200 miles away because he offered the biggest discount goes wrong, take it back there to get it repaired.
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No need, manufacturers will pay any dealer for warranty work so they are looking for such work.

Yes, there are good and trustworthy car salespeople (and I have dealt with a few) but I am sure you agree that many are not. They would naturally have a better reputation if this was not the case. I hear people who sell double glazing are much worse though!

BTW - I too detest monster 4x4 cars. Pointless, I will stick with my MINI.
 
KenL said:
No need, manufacturers will pay any dealer for warranty work so they are looking for such work..
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At a much lower rate than retail, and it's normally the discount merchants who whinge and whine about every little thing and expect a loan car when none are available.
Service department then come to sales department and nick a salesman's demonstrator to keep said whinger happy.
So the salesman ends up having to lend his own car to a person that came in to his showroom 2 months previously and wasted an hour or more of his time when they had absolutely no intention of buying the car from him in the first place.
I'd personally tell them to eff off.
I love it when salesmen are called "tyre kickers" and "slimy".
We're not slimy when you need to do a test drive, pick up a brochure or ask for details of the car you're interested in.
But as soon as we try to earn a living by selling said car, we become the worlds worst.
 
I've bought and leased many cars over the years. By far the majority of dealers / salesmen I have come across have been awful, amateurish, a throwback. Very few behave in a way that make me feel I could trust them. Sorry you've taken the hump but that's your industry, sort it out. There are some very good dealers I've experienced but boy are they in the minority. I'll be changing my car next year and there is a good chance it will be a Skoda. The dealer up here is well respected, I've used them before, so I will go to them again. That's how sales work. Behave with respect and you get respect back.

Go onto any car forum and you will see a mass of complaints about dealers. Your industry has a major trust issue but the word on good dealers spreads and people will travel to them. Pass on the word to your colleagues, it will help them 😀
 
Lord Tyrion said:
I'll be changing my car next year and there is a good chance it will be a Skoda. The dealer up here is well respected, I've used them before, so I will go to them again.
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Go there, do your test drive, spend an hour talking to the salesman.
But if you get offered the same car £1,000.00 cheaper elsewhere what then?
 
I'll be leasing it. I don't always go for the cheapest for the reason you mentioned before, you need to build a relationship with the dealer. My current Volvo is done through my local dealer despite the cost being slightly more as the differential was close enough. Same will apply this time. It depends what the differential is.
We all make that choice all the time, cost plus service. I know a dealer will cost more but if I see the service level is worth it I will pay it. I won't if the dealer is awful but the car is good. I won't apologise for that, that is down to the quality of the dealer and staff.
 
Sorry I think I fall into the not very pleasant customer category. I have usually done my research, I know what I want. The next step is to get the prices, sorry just quote, nothing else is required, small talk not necessary.
I have to say though the PCP stuff has to be watched carefully regarding APR. My general of thumb is it has to be less than 1% and ultimate car price has to be as close as the VAT free number...
 
KenL said:
It looks like you have more contempt for potential customers than they have for car salespeople!
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That's a totally unfair comment.

Same thing happens in golf shops with SOME people. They come in the shop, get free professional advice, pick up clubs, are given demo clubs to go and hit for free, including advice on the difference in shafts and various models, often given free balls to hit, then say thanks and go and buy off the Internet from the cheapest source, normally a source that can only provide photos on the Internet and absolutely no other help in the decision process.

Then guess who they go running to for more free advice when there's a problem or they think they might have fakes?

Obviously it's not everyone, but there are plenty out there and it's pretty similar to Smiffy's experience.
 
harpo_72 said:
Sorry I think I fall into the not very pleasant customer category. I have usually done my research, I know what I want. The next step is to get the prices, sorry just quote, nothing else is required, small talk not necessary.
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Test drive?
 
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