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Yes, in my opinion which is a FACT.
Buchanan Castle Golf Club - Disgraceful open payouts
- Thread starter sweeneytoddd
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Jacko_G
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golfer13
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£150 was the first prize. The total prizes paid out were £450. Extra greenkeeping staff for extra work on the course which we do for our Opens and extra gardeners and flowers for the surrounding areas. This is above a normal Sunday as it was on a Sunday.
Also to be frank if we didn't run the Open and opened it up to visitors and societies it could be argued income would be greater.
There seem to be plenty different views on the subject.
Also to be frank if we didn't run the Open and opened it up to visitors and societies it could be argued income would be greater.
There seem to be plenty different views on the subject.
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Seeing as I copied that from you I guess that makes you a queen
Jacko_G
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Why would you pay extra green keeping staff? Are you "cheating" your membership by providing a better course for visitors than for members?
It would only be better if you had a party booked for that day and let's be honest you didn't have a party booked for that day or you wouldn't have held an open.
Personally I think you should have let sleeping dogs lie now you're firefighting.
Bunkermagnet
Journeyman Pro
Why shouldn't he defend their club?
From where I'm sat it looks to me like they gave a pretty good and reasonable day for AMATEUR golfers, not professionals playing golf for a living.
I don't they think have anything to be ashamed of and have every right to defend themselves on a public forum after being slated.
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chrisd
Major Champion
The Joy's of a forum, every thread gets comment from both ends of the spectrum, nothing is ever wholly right or wrong
lobthewedge
Challenge Tour Pro
Open days should be about enjoying a new course, enjoying the company and if you win ANYTHING its a bonus.
Your moaning about the prize fund comes across very poorly.
Jacko_G
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Hmmmm.
Great value absolutely. £30 entry for a team of 3 to play Buchanan Castle is a good deal.
That said his figures don't quite add up.
£450 prizes, £150 to first place, I'd say £30 each for second? Maybe £20 for 3rd? Let's be generous and say 4th place got their money back. That's £330 in prize vouchers.
Would be interested to know how many spot prizes there were on the course.
£450 from a pot of over £1100.
Spoken with a couple of people I know in the "industry" profit from entry is not the goal when they have opens. They get their profit from bar catering on these days. Hopefully have the course good enough to entice a couple of future members.
Each to their own I side with the OP on the prizes. After all some people go "pot hunting" not to go and play another course.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I wouldn't even have done the maths personally. I'd have thought, tenner green fee, played a round of golf and walked away having won 50 quid! Happy days!
A few people have quoted about Opens needing extra work for the greenstaff. I'm not quite following that. What would be different to any other competition day?
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Yep, sounds like the OP in this instance
lobthewedge
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From my experience of known 'pot hunters', they aint the most popular of people/golfers.
But as has already been said, each to their own and everyone has their own reasons for playing.
Coffey
Challenge Tour Pro
Maybe they do not run competitions on a normal sunday. So they had to bring in one green keeper or even 2 to cut the greens and fairways on the sunday morning before the first group went out
Jacko_G
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I agree but that's a different argument.
golfer13
New member
One final point. We decide on the dates for Opens as much as a year in advance so therefore that stops us taking societies on that day.
We have to turn away business on our Open days but we are prepared to accept that.
We will obviously review our Open policies before next year but thinking if we do have one there maybe no entries from Braehead GC
We have to turn away business on our Open days but we are prepared to accept that.
We will obviously review our Open policies before next year but thinking if we do have one there maybe no entries from Braehead GC
lobthewedge
Challenge Tour Pro
Do you 'cheat' your wife because you dont shave or dress to look your best every single day? Or do you present yourself every morning like you were going to meet the Queen?
Can you not see the sense in paying a little extra to spruce up your course when you are going to be flooded with new customers?
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Some courses including ours have a lower number of green staff working at the weekend ( mainly because that’s the day’s most are playing ) but on some days and for comps they will have the full compliment on to ensure the course is in great conditions , new pins cut , every bunker raked etc so you have to pay for overtime for the green staff.
That’s what happens at our place for say Club Championships etc
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Tough to judge really
So if its 40% of green fees to prizes that seems fair, if not a little high (if the purpose of the event is to raise funds)
I suppose it’s possible the catering is on outsource, or maybe the chef is employed in much the same way as a golf pro is, either way neither of these scenarios is a benefit to the club funds so it might just be green fees. So as I say tough to judge without knowing these things
Even if its in-house most entrants wont do lunch given the tee times as they’ll be on the course at lunch time so I don’t see that as the pot at the end of the rainbow and members will be scarcer on that day too
So around £600 remaining less the other expenses doesn’t really sound like a lot of funds being raised given the effort and disruption to members and the bar is unlikely to help push this up either since everyone’s always saying they don’t have anything to drink outside coffee/soft drink. Years back they might have added another 600 over the bar, maybe these days £60 is closer to the mark!
If the general feeling from the entrants is for better/bigger prizes I don’t see much option other than to raise the entry cost or get the prizes sponsored
So if its 40% of green fees to prizes that seems fair, if not a little high (if the purpose of the event is to raise funds)
I suppose it’s possible the catering is on outsource, or maybe the chef is employed in much the same way as a golf pro is, either way neither of these scenarios is a benefit to the club funds so it might just be green fees. So as I say tough to judge without knowing these things
Even if its in-house most entrants wont do lunch given the tee times as they’ll be on the course at lunch time so I don’t see that as the pot at the end of the rainbow and members will be scarcer on that day too
So around £600 remaining less the other expenses doesn’t really sound like a lot of funds being raised given the effort and disruption to members and the bar is unlikely to help push this up either since everyone’s always saying they don’t have anything to drink outside coffee/soft drink. Years back they might have added another 600 over the bar, maybe these days £60 is closer to the mark!
If the general feeling from the entrants is for better/bigger prizes I don’t see much option other than to raise the entry cost or get the prizes sponsored
golfer13
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What are the thoughts regarding the cost to enter an Open event and how much it should be as I think it varies a lot?
