MegaSteve
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My humble apologies for lack of tact....
Sadly, in the fullness of time their action will be forgotten and history will no doubt have it that equality was 'won' by the ladies of Hollywood...
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My humble apologies for lack of tact....
Sadly, in the fullness of time their action will be forgotten and history will no doubt have it that equality was 'won' by the ladies of Hollywood...
I was genuinely surprised this morning that when I put the news on ITV still had someone reviewing the best and worst dressed women. Okay, it is ITV but even so. I thought this year of all years that would be forgotten. I also foolishly thought the ladies of Hollywood, whilst not dressing in black again, would dress down and drop the photo op.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Could be said about many things
Boaty McBoatface
, or were you being deeper than that
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User62651
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Maybe Putin's behind it?
De-stabilising the UK again.
De-stabilising the UK again.
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
Why should they dress down? It's their biggest night out at the most famous awards ceremony of them all. Not really sure how dressing down would forward the cause of women as it is just denying them the right to dress how they want?
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There is a movement in the industry for women to be treated equally, not to be objectified, to be respected. Make the event about the person, not the dresses, not the flesh. Helen Mirren was class personified. That was my point. I didn't expect anyone to be there in a potato sack.
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
Who is making the event about the dress and the flesh and objectifying them? The women who wear the dress or the people who are judging them on it?
The reality is both. Red carpet dresses are frequently designed to get publicity, to make sure yours is the picture used. Naïve to think otherwise.
Khamelion
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I did think that, at time of writing the reply, but opted for the flippant reply to try and bring some brevity to the thread.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Boaty McBoatface
Oh - I couldn't possible go any deeper than suggesting public polls or the individuals voting in the poll can be manipulated by others for their own ends...
There is something to be said for the view that Sturgeon currently has more influence than May. Indeed in politics wee Ruthie probably has more actual influence than May. I wonder how many folks listen to May and have any real faith in her ability to deliver what she says - or indeed whether or not she actually believes what she herself says. Whilst May sounded full of confidence and drive delivering her speech on Friday - to me she sounded a lot less confident - almost shifting uncomfortably at times - in her subsequent her interview with Marr.
To steal a line from 'Mum' (on BBC at the moment). The person I feel pity for is not Theresa May - it is Theresa May before she became Prime Minister. Oh was life not so much easier back then. That was a such a happy and relaxed Theresa - a Theresa comfortable with her responsibilities and with aspirations, hopes and dreams.
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Where? Genuinely. I'm sure in Scotland but outside of Scotland they are currently not on the radar. Everything is so Brexit dominated that NS and RD are not making any news outside of Scotland. I can't remember the last time I heard either on the news down here. You can make a good argument for Arlene Foster being highly influential and certainly being more influential at the moment than NS and RD, and cheekily perhaps more than TM.
I'm in agreement about your last sentence, TM is the political equivalent to Arsene Wenger.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Sturgeon was interviewed at some length by Robert Peston on Peston on Sunday yesterday.
I agree that AF is indeed very influential in that the she is walking around with Theresa May in her handbag...
Perhaps the Tory Party will be reflecting on their poster from the 2015 GE - that showed Ed Miliband in the pocket of Alex Salmond - though I doubt it...
Ands if you listed 5 Tory Politicians - one being wee Ruthie - and asked English Tory Voters who they'd like to see as their party leader then Ruthie would poll well - and if they listed female Tory politicians - she'd be up there with Amber Rudd - maybe Leadsom kicking around somewhere.
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I think RD is highly impressive and one of the best politicians out there, note best covering all, not just best female. The problem she has in going further is that to become leader she has to work the English shires. Being a big fish in Scotland matters not a jot to the elderly ladies of Berkshire, Oxfordshire etc who make up the heart of the Tory party. She has to become an MP, not an MSP, then she has to work the system. Far harder for a genuine Scot to lead the Conservatives than Labour for example. I shudder when I hear that Leadsom could still be a future leader. I'm still waiting to hear anything of note from her since she last stood.
I'm sure Labour already have the poster of TM in Arlene's bag already set up
MegaSteve
Tour Winner
As a gentle reminder.... The poll was for 'all time'...
Whilst Nicola may have talked the talk and caused a few ripples...
She's achieved little more than zip in the scheme of 'all time'...
Whilst Nicola may have talked the talk and caused a few ripples...
She's achieved little more than zip in the scheme of 'all time'...
Canfordhacker
Q-School Graduate
Oh - I couldn't possible go any deeper than suggesting public polls or the individuals voting in the poll can be manipulated by others for their own ends...
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I agree. It only takes 200 votes to get in the top 50. I reckon with our combined muscle on here we could easily get Laura Davies in there to help promote the game...
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
I think RD is highly impressive and one of the best politicians out there, note best covering all, not just best female. The problem she has in going further is that to become leader she has to work the English shires. Being a big fish in Scotland matters not a jot to the elderly ladies of Berkshire, Oxfordshire etc who make up the heart of the Tory party. She has to become an MP, not an MSP, then she has to work the system. Far harder for a genuine Scot to lead the Conservatives than Labour for example. I shudder when I hear that Leadsom could still be a future leader. I'm still waiting to hear anything of note from her since she last stood.
I'm sure Labour already have the poster of TM in Arlene's bag already set up
I share your shudders- but I can report seeing her from time to time sitting on the government front bench in the commons - but as far as utterances - not a lot. Perhaps for very good reasons - #1 being she's probably a liability and is only where she is today because she was a leading light in Leave and stood for leader - so May had to keep her in vision but shackled.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
True - she is but standing on the shoulders of Winnie Ewing
Of all time...? Emmeline Pankhurst should be up there...
FairwayDodger
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Of course not, not even the most influential now. But that’s not what I said.
