BLM protests/ Riots.

[Jimaroid]

The statue defence league of numpties was whipped into a froth by behaviour seen in Bristol. The mayor of London had nothing to do with that. Except that he’s got brown skin so obviously must be at fault.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Nah, no it's not. If Churchill in London is on the list, and so are upto 120 more up and down the country, it's perfectly rational for some people to react to that. Obviously those of us with more of a brain would see common sense but this whole situation has whipped up irrational behaviour. And I never stipulated your local statue or memorial was on said hit list, as I've got no idea where you live. I'm talking generally.

If the Police had done their job properly or been allowed to last weekend, today would simply not have happened.

Theres no unrest around the country, it's in London only. Khan has failed the capital and has lost control. He needs removing ASAP.

Absolute garbage! Churchill was targeted for his supposed racist views, nothing to do with the War.

Easy to blame Khan! Then explain why he has the support of the majority in London!

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Why do you only condemn hooligans from one side of the rioting.
And what has the unrest to do with the UK government, the London Mayor is responsible for Policing.

It wasn’t the London Mayor who cut the Police to the bare bones over the last 10yrs!
All marches were banned, what else can Khan do?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Yes I do and feel free to debate anything with me.

My point, which you're missing. Is if Khan had controlled his Police force last weekend to tackle violent protestors, you'd not have a plethora of violent idiots descending on London. What happen today, has been a direct result of the entire country seeing Police scared to engage, running away and being attacked.

For all of todays trouble, under 10 officers were injured. Almost FIVE times as many were last weekend. I'll let the facts speak.

The unrest has NOT been initated by the government FFS. It's come from the far left, violent factions in the BLM, Khan being a coward and the media whipping it up for hits. All combined have led to todays events, nothing else.

Yes the EDL, football hooligans and Britain First are total scumbags, we all know that. But the above has breathed new life into a fading scene. This is going to grow each week now unless all protests are banned and Police get really tough, IMO. Images circulate on social media, fuelling the hatred and division.

Protests are already banned!
The BLM cancelled their march yesterday, therefore there was ABSOLUTELY no reason for any right wing to turn up.
The right wing claiming they are protecting monuments! Give it a rest, they are saying the Police can’t do their job, the monuments were boarded up? WHY DID THEY TURN UP?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Paul, I'm not gonna waste my time lowering my debates to connect with you. I'll say this....

The Met should've gone and smashed some heads last weekend. The cause doesn't matter, once law and order is threatened the Police have to respond. They turned a blind eye under Khans instructions to try and reduce tension. It was a dire call and led to 49 officers being injured and numerous attacks on the Police during the week. It led to anger and hundreds of idiots turning up to cause trouble today. If you can't see then I hope you find your other eye soon.

He then covered up the Churchill statue which is a serious affront to the entire country. End of story. How weak do you have to be as a mayor of one of the most multicultural and forward thinking cities in the world, to have to do that? He's lost it.

Maybe Churchills statue should of covered before? Or is it only a serious affront to the nation when it comes down to colour of skin?

 

[PJ87]

It wasn’t the London Mayor who cut the Police to the bare bones over the last 10yrs!
All marches were banned, what else can Khan do?

Also the fire service cuts (yet labour got the blame for grenfile at the election losing their just won seat)

Tfl cuts

A record of big cuts to the important services

Whilst spending on a bridge that never happened

Yet he got voted in to run the country

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Massive thanks and respect to the Police and the rest of the Emergency Services who, once again, are left to face the consequences of our spineless politicians(on all sides), face the danger and pick up the pieces.

 

[spongebob59]

Spot the difference ?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1269354903543197701

https://twitter.com/x/status/1271904157012758528

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Spot the difference ?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1269354903543197701

https://twitter.com/x/status/1271904157012758528

You really know no shame do you?

Scum on both sides and is anything he said incorrect?

Keep pushing your right wing spin.

I’ll ask you the same question that everyone else on the right side of politics keeps ignoring,
Why did the “Statue Patriots” turn up yesterday if the BLM protest was cancelled and the statues were protected?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Meanwhile in Scotland......…...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1271790452149190658

 

[drdel]

You really know no shame do you?

Scum on both sides and is anything he said incorrect?

Keep pushing your right wing spin.

I’ll ask you the same question that everyone else on the right side of politics keeps ignoring,
Why did the “Statue Patriots” turn up yesterday if the BLM protest was cancelled and the statues were protected?

BLM protestors did gather.

 

[Beezerk]

I’ll ask you the same question that everyone else on the right side of politics keeps ignoring,
Why did the “Statue Patriots” turn up yesterday if the BLM protest was cancelled and the statues were protected?

I'd just like to state, I'm in no way condoning these thugs, they are mindless bigots, but you must be able to see it from their point of view even if you don't agree with it. The fact the statues have been boarded up must be an affront to them, I imagine that may be part of the reason why they have turned out?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

BLM protestors did gather.

The OFFICIAL march was cancelled, if the idiots on the right would of also cancelled that would of meant only the scum looking for trouble ON BOTH SIDES would be there.
How is that Khan’s fault?

 

[Fade and Die]

BLM protestors did gather.

Yes they did...at first I thought they had played a blinder, kept out of trouble whilst a bunch of pi**ed up “wlm” clashed with the police. Sadly it didn’t last and they started targeting individuals, I’ve seen on the internet a guy beaten to a pulp with his eye popped out and another guy have his throat slit. (Lots of witnesses and footage so hopefully arrests will be made)
It's clear that both the blm and veterans protecting the statues got hijacked. (I felt particularly sorry for the old boy with medals on who was clearly there out of respect for Churchill.)

I fear that we're heading towards a race war. There are clearly massively racist people on both sides.

It's going to take quite a bit of common sense for those in the middle to diffuse it.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I'd just like to state, I'm in no way condoning these thugs, they are mindless bigots, but you must be able to see it from their point of view even if you don't agree with it. The fact the statues have been boarded up must be an affront to them, I imagine that may be part of the reason why they have turned out?

No I don’t see it as an affront, I see it as common sense until the scum, on both sides, calm down, if it was only to protect Winston Churchill, why was Ghandi’s and Mandella’s Statues covered up?

And as by previous attacks on Churchill’s Statue have they not turned up in the past?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Yes they did...at first I thought they had played a blinder, kept out of trouble whilst a bunch of pi**ed up “wlm” clashed with the police. Sadly it didn’t last and they started targeting individuals, I’ve seen on the internet a guy beaten to a pulp with his eye popped out and another guy have his throat slit. (Lots of witnesses and footage so hopefully arrests will be made)
It's clear that both the blm and veterans protecting the statues got hijacked. (I felt particularly sorry for the old boy with medals on who was clearly there out of respect for Churchill.)

I fear that we're heading towards a race war. There are clearly massively racist people on both sides.

It's going to take quite a bit of common sense for those in the middle to diffuse it.

It’s been proved nobody had their throat slashed, the Police and Ambulance Service have confirmed.

 

[Beezerk]

No I don’t see it as an affront, I see it as common sense until the scum, on both sides, calm down, if it was only to protect Winston Churchill, why was Ghandi’s and Mandella’s Statues covered up?

And as by previous attacks on Churchill’s Statue have they not turned up in the past?

I didn't say "you" see it as an affront, I said can you not see that "they" see it as an affront?

Re the 2nd point, they've seen the BLM protests and violence and now they want their turn in the spotlight, I think it's as simple as that.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I didn't say "you" see it as an affront, I said can you not see that "they" see it as an affront?

Re the 2nd point, they've seen the BLM protests and violence and now they want their turn in the spotlight, I think it's as simple as that.

I still don’t see how anyone with any modicum of intelligence can see it as an affront.

To me, as a Proud Veteran and who has marched past it on Remembrance Sunday numerous times, I see it as feeding the propaganda and letting the extremists win, the people who disrespected the Cenotaph should be hunted down and charged by the Police. The Cenotaph is a memorial to all those who have died serving this Country regardless of colour and we need to educate people, instead it’s been turned in to a symbol of “white power” by some and I find that distressing.

As for the Churchill Statue, I posted 4 pictures of it being abused in the past, still wrong, but sadly it happens, were was the national outcry against the teachers or brexit supporters when it happened.

 

[spongebob59]

You really know no shame do you?

Scum on both sides and is anything he said incorrect?

Keep pushing your right wing spin.

I’ll ask you the same question that everyone else on the right side of politics keeps ignoring,
Why did the “Statue Patriots” turn up yesterday if the BLM protest was cancelled and the statues were protected?

I'm not pushing anything, he wrote what he did and I see an imbalance, others may not.
the first BLM March should have been policed better and maybe this would not have happened as soon, although I suspect it would have done sooner or later.
the police were out in full riot gear yesterday but took a more softly softly approach in the first March imo.
I'd expect all sides of politics to try and stamp this out, we'll have to wait and see.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I'm not pushing anything, he wrote what he did and I see an imbalance, others may not.
the first BLM March should have been policed better and maybe this would not have happened as soon, although I suspect it would have done sooner or later.
the police were out in full riot gear yesterday but took a more softly softly approach in the first March imo.
I'd expect all sides of politics to try and stamp this out, we'll have to wait and see.

Maybe last week they believed it would be peaceful and took a softer approach, this week they’ve learnt their lesson, took no chances and probably learnt through intelligence gathering that some were coming for trouble and prepared themselves.

Surely for the safety of the Officers they are better off being over cautious.