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Big Ben

It’s a national monument, a big token of the nations history along with many other places in all the countries within the UK and the money would be spent on it if it was in Edinburgh, Cardiff or Belfast
 
I agree it needed building but the costs became ridiculous. As for HS2 there is far less need for that to allow a 20min quicker commute when so many other areas need better transport links in order to reduce car usage

There's a valid argument that saving people from reaching Birmingham for another 20 minutes is a public service.. :)
 
Why not replace all the antiquated working parts with a modern digital clock while retaining the original external appearance?
The audio aspects could easily be electronically simulated.

If the tower itself is structurally unsound, I'd think twice about not fixing it.

A great cathedral burned down in Paris. As a secular person, I still think that was a terrible thing.

When you stop restoring your cultural landmarks, you get closer and closer to becoming American.

You don't want that.

Boomer, you do America a disservice, some of the most stunning monuments I seen have been in the USA.
 
It’s a crazy amount to spend on a clock but so be it get it done.

London generates more than its fair share of revenue and attracts more businessmen and wealth than any other UK city. It’s a drop in the ocean and we shouldn’t have to sacrifice any of our heritage especially in London.

Scotland’s deficit is shambolic, so I always find it hilarious when such hatred is shown towards London and spending.
i would have to disagree, scotland s def is expected to be paid for by Scotland yet big infrastructure projets in the Uk are paid for by all of us,... For instance when a bridge for Skye was finally built westminster wouldn't and refused to pay for it so private funding had to be used, why does the UK tax payer have to foot the bill for a massive benifit for London, the richest city it the UK?
 
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Boomer, you do America a disservice, some of the most stunning monuments I seen have been in the USA.


Monuments, yes, but not buildings.
Some of our most beautiful buildings have been torn down to make way for monstrosities (like Trump Tower).
Some of our less beautiful but still impressive ones are knocked down by Islamic terrorists.--apparently just for the hell of it.

I thought Big Ben was quite impressive. All of Parliament, actually. (Wish we had one.)
St. Paul's as well.
As for the big Ferris wheel, well...that's fun, anyway.
 
Monuments, yes, but not buildings.
Some of our most beautiful buildings have been torn down to make way for monstrosities (like Trump Tower).
Some of our less beautiful but still impressive ones are knocked down by Islamic terrorists.--apparently just for the hell of it.

I thought Big Ben was quite impressive. All of Parliament, actually. (Wish we had one.)
St. Paul's as well.
As for the big Ferris wheel, well...that's fun, anyway.

US Library of Congress
US Capitol
Ryman Auditorium
Grand Central Station

You sure you don't do beautiful buildings... :unsure:
 
US Library of Congress
US Capitol
Ryman Auditorium
Grand Central Station

You sure you don't do beautiful buildings... :unsure:

OK, we do a few. They're all vulnerable to being torn down for a strip mall (or even a public parking garage) if the latter would be more profitable, unfortunately.
Right now the landmark buildings are safe because Amazon is putting all the shopping malls out of business.
It seems that a new generation of Americans would rather shop on their computers than move their fat asses into the fresh air and mingle with people.
 
Monuments, yes, but not buildings.
Some of our most beautiful buildings have been torn down to make way for monstrosities (like Trump Tower).
Some of our less beautiful but still impressive ones are knocked down by Islamic terrorists.--apparently just for the hell of it.

I thought Big Ben was quite impressive. All of Parliament, actually. (Wish we had one.)
St. Paul's as well.
As for the big Ferris wheel, well...that's fun, anyway.
TBH most of londons buildings are moderen thanks to the Great Fire, all of medieval London is long gone with exception of the odd building.
St pauls and westminster all modern apart from west minster hall and the abbey... oh andsthe Tower of course
 
TBH most of londons buildings are moderen thanks to the Great Fire, all of medieval London is long gone with exception of the odd building.
St pauls and westminster all modern apart from west minster hall and the abbey... oh andsthe Tower of course

It's entirely likely that when it comes to architecture, the word "modern" might have a somewhat different meaning in our respective countries.
 
i would have to disagree, scotland s def is expected to be paid for by Scotland yet big infrastructure projets in the Uk are paid for by all of us,... For instance when a bridge for Skye was finally built westminster wouldn't and refused to pay for it so private funding had to be used, why does the UK tax payer have to foot the bill for a massive benifit for London, the richest city it the UK?
It's no different with items built in the South East to your bridge. Big Ben, Westminster et al bring thousands of tourists from around the World every day all spending money that goes into the coffers that we all benefit from one way or another.
I look forward to the moaning when, if you do get your independance, the Royal Navy relocating ALL it's fleet back to England. We'll be glad of the work and jobs it creates.:)
 
It's no different with items built in the South East to your bridge. Big Ben, Westminster et al bring thousands of tourists from around the World every day all spending money that goes into the coffers that we all benefit from one way or another.
I look forward to the moaning when, if you do get your independance, the Royal Navy relocating ALL it's fleet back to England. We'll be glad of the work and jobs it creates.:)
fill your boots, but little or nothing has been spent on Inf in scotland by westminster no matter who was in power, money raised in london stays there yet when it come s to projects down south they get paid for by everyone... i lived down there long enough, the rest of the Uk is suffering yet london gets richer and richer... not sour grapes... fact
 
fill your boots, but little or nothing has been spent on Inf in scotland by westminster no matter who was in power, money raised in london stays there yet when it come s to projects down south they get paid for by everyone... i lived down there long enough, the rest of the Uk is suffering yet london gets richer and richer... not sour grapes... fact
I have to say this is correct .
The transport in the north is a joke compared to London .
 
I have to say this is correct .
The transport in the north is a joke compared to London .
Of course London has better public transport, there’s a greater and more densely packed population. But London isn’t the south/south east, and just because the capital has such great public transport go 40 miles out from the seat of power and the story is little different to the rest of the country.
 
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London is the first major city/town, just about anywhere, to NOT receive a subsidy from central government for its mass transport system...

Perhaps, the 'north' is in need of getting its act together...

It is mental, it's caused a huge hole in our finances and all the buses etc are funded by the profits from the tube

For me it's a sign of a transport system run by government run well though ... British rail was a disgrace but private companies take the profits away

Least our profits all go back into the system in upgrades etc
 
London is the first major city/town, just about anywhere, to NOT receive a subsidy from central government for its mass transport system...

Perhaps, the 'north' is in need of getting its act together...
Perhaps it's the fact that there is a large concentration of people coupled with congestion charges and lots of traffic means that more people use public transport as the only viable option.
Halton Transport in my old town went bust a couple of weeks ago. That provided a valuable service to many people and it will leave a big hole for older people and kids who used to take it to school. It's very sad.
 
London is the first major city/town, just about anywhere, to NOT receive a subsidy from central government for its mass transport system...

Perhaps, the 'north' is in need of getting its act together...
It’s hard to get your act together when your budget is cut by 40%.
closing libraries and youth centres but big money tree when it suits.
 
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