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No crime may have been committed but the damage is done, the wife has outed him.

Will be another Phillip Scofield, nothing illegal but career over
To be precise…the statement from his wife said that she was making the statement on behalf of her husband…’outing’ suggests that she was doing it behind his back or against his wishes.

I actually find the whole thing very sad…serious mental health issues such as Huw Edwards has suffered for years, can really screw up your thinking and make the most outrageous or inappropriate behaviour seem perfectly logical and reasonable.
 

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To be precise…the statement from his wife said that she was making the statement on behalf of her husband…’outing’ suggests that she was doing it behind his back or against his wishes.

I actually find the whole thing very sad…serious mental health issues such as Huw Edwards has suffered for years, can really screw up your thinking and make the most outrageous or inappropriate behaviour seem perfectly logical and reasonable.
I was going to say the same thing. It’s very possibly his mental health issues caused him to make some poor choices.
 

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To be precise…the statement from his wife said that she was making the statement on behalf of her husband…’outing’ suggests that she was doing it behind his back or against his wishes.

I actually find the whole thing very sad…serious mental health issues such as Huw Edwards has suffered for years, can really screw up your thinking and make the most outrageous or inappropriate behaviour seem perfectly logical and reasonable.
If, and I use the term if very loosely, Huw did have mental health problems then the BBC have a lot to answer for. They have a duty of care for all their employees. He should have been taken off air a long time ago.

unfortunately this is another
“ Celeb” from a long line of celebs that have made wrong choices. People will talk and Gossip about Huw until the next name comes along. ☹️
 

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If, and I use the term if very loosely, Huw did have mental health problems then the BBC have a lot to answer for. They have a duty of care for all their employees. He should have been taken off air a long time ago.

unfortunately this is another
“ Celeb” from a long line of celebs that have made wrong choices. People will talk and Gossip about Huw until the next name comes along. ☹️
Not necessarily. If he was able to function at work, he was, then why would they remove him? For all we know, work may have been a release for him. I think a fear for people with mental health issues is that the moment an employer hears this then they treat them differently, they hold them back. You hope that he and the BBC talked about what he could and could not do and reacted accordingly. Had they suspended him they may have been open to being sued, it's a difficult line for employers to walk.

As an outsider, this seems to not be work related, it is very much a private life issue.
 

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Not necessarily. If he was able to function at work, he was, then why would they remove him? For all we know, work may have been a release for him. I think a fear for people with mental health issues is that the moment an employer hears this then they treat them differently, they hold them back. You hope that he and the BBC talked about what he could and could not do and reacted accordingly. Had they suspended him they may have been open to being sued, it's a difficult line for employers to walk.

As an outsider, this seems to not be work related, it is very much a private life issue.
I would suggest this is akin to the nasty kid dropping a stink bomb in a room, and walking away to leave everyone else to deal with it.
The sun have made their sales on this, and you only have to read some of the replies on here to see some take the view " it's in the paper it must be true."
 

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Not necessarily. If he was able to function at work, he was, then why would they remove him? For all we know, work may have been a release for him. I think a fear for people with mental health issues is that the moment an employer hears this then they treat them differently, they hold them back. You hope that he and the BBC talked about what he could and could not do and reacted accordingly. Had they suspended him they may have been open to being sued, it's a difficult line for employers to walk.

As an outsider, this seems to not be work related, it is very much a private life issue.
The problem is that if he had mental health issues. He will, or can and did make the wrong decisions. He or anyone else with mental issues is not capable of making the right decisions.
Because he was not given help the problem is a lot bigger than it is now.
 

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The problem is that if he had mental health issues. He will, or can and did make the wrong decisions. He or anyone else with mental issues is not capable of making the right decisions.
Because he was not given help the problem is a lot bigger than it is now.
I understand he has suffered with depression for a very long time.
Theres no "if" needed there.....
 
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The problem is that if he had mental health issues. He will, or can and did make the wrong decisions. He or anyone else with mental issues is not capable of making the right decisions.
Because he was not given help the problem is a lot bigger than it is now.


And what you are posting is a big reason why so many still hide away from Mental illness and there is still a stigma associated with it

Talk of removing them from their jobs and not being capable of making decisions to etc is the sort of scaremongering that goes on and blanket judgments on mental health

He has had to deal with mental health illness for 20 years now and clearly has dealt with it well

This is all being driven by a scum paper that hasn’t even confirmed the source , provided evidence yet the police have confirmed nothing illegal has happened - yet he has been found guilty by social media

Even the suggestions that the mental health is just an excuse to try and get him out of it - the Scum paper is perfect for those type of people
 

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If, and I use the term if very loosely, Huw did have mental health problems then the BBC have a lot to answer for. They have a duty of care for all their employees. He should have been taken off air a long time ago.

unfortunately this is another
“ Celeb” from a long line of celebs that have made wrong choices. People will talk and Gossip about Huw until the next name comes along. ☹️
Sounds like a great way to discriminate against people with mental health problems. Just stop them doing their jobs.

As far as I'm aware, he was perfectly capable of doing his job. Was there any evidence that the conditions of his work were causing those problems, and the BBC knew this and were failing to address these problems?

If employers start taking those sorts of actions against anybody with any sort of mental health problem, then it is clearly going to stop people highlighting problems they have in the first place
 

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And what you are posting is a big reason why so many still hide away from Mental illness and there is still a stigma associated with it

Talk of removing them from their jobs and not being capable of making decisions to etc is the sort of scaremongering that goes on and blanket judgments on mental health

He has had to deal with mental health illness for 20 years now and clearly has dealt with it well

This is all being driven by a scum paper that hasn’t even confirmed the source , provided evidence yet the police have confirmed nothing illegal has happened - yet he has been found guilty by social media

Even the suggestions that the mental health is just an excuse to try and get him out of it - the Scum paper is perfect for those type of people
i was scared of telling people (especially my boss) that i had MH issues but i noticed that it was taking me ages to do the simplest of tasks.

my boss told me to take 10 days off then we would talk about reducing my hours for a while until I felt i could cope with things.

there is still a "he's mental" attitide to this and i am in no doubt that some "celebs" may use MH as an excuse for their poor behaviour.
 
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I say If because if he did, then why was he still doing what he was doing. hence the BBC have a duty of care.
I don't think suffering from depression is a reason not to do a job, do you?
I can imagine something like the sun dropping it's poo on you wold be enough to cause anxiety on any one.
 

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I think that there is an issue about the terminology used that can cause issues with the general public in that the term 'mental health' issues has become an umbrella term covering so much and thus it is brought out regularly and so people can see it as being used as justification for anything. Many people do not understand just how mental health can impact on other areas. It is only since I started down the route of autism assessment (that is back on now by the way having had a long exchange of emails with the doctor) that I realised what behaviour in my life was potentially being triggered by my issues and it was not always just me being an idiot.

There is so much for people to understand and a use of one term, I think, is not helpful as wheeling that out, however correctly, can come accross as an excuse for any unacceptable behaviour or action.

That said, the fact that the actions of an individual were such that a BBC reporter was allegedly investigating before this came out does suggest that they perhaps should have stepped in with help sooner.
 
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He is but unfortunately his actions whilst being mentally Ill have had consequences for others ☹️


Don’t you mean “alledged” actions


Maybe it’s best sticking to the facts as opposed to what a rag prints
 

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You’re really running with this backwards view on mental illness.

Am I. Unfortunately for me to give my reasons why he may or may not have mental health issues, (and I have not stated that he has not). I would have to quote my experiences of dealing with people who have had mental health issues whilst working in the Pits. However if I have to have mention my experiences which influence my opinions of both good and bad when dealing with mental health, it comes under anecdotal fallacy.
 
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