Banditry of the highest order.

[CMAC]

in all my golfing years I've found the dry weather, hard running fairways and warmer weather helps higher h/caps enormously as they can get 30-40yds run so its a 9 iron now instead of the 5 iron or hybrid approaches (no offense higher h/cappers), and if they have a half decent shortgame then low scores and high stableford points will ensue.

It's been this way for as long as I remember regardless of what super technology equipment was the flavour of the day.

 

[daymond]

tell me if I'm losing the plot but he and his partner were playing as a team. How do we know it was the accused that scored all the points.

 

[Billysboots]

I don't really agree with those who are shrugging off 47 points as nothing special, even in a BB format. This was off 3/4 remember!

Our Winter League preliminary rounds are BB off 3/4, and a few years ago pairs had to average over 42 points over 5 rounds to qualify for the knockout stages. We regularly saw 46/47/48 points coming in, and even our head pro said those scores should be the exception, rather than the rule. Once our Handicap Chair got a grip under the old Rule 19 the scores became far more sensible!

We still get the odd good score, but 47 is very, very good and should be regarded as such, not simply as a result of the format it was scored in. I do agree if pairs dovetail anything is possible, but in my experience such scores tend to be the preserve of those with higher handicaps.

 

[6inchcup]

I played in a comp at ECCLESTON PARK about nine years ago and had 26 points on the front nine,i was playing well but to be honest it is an easy course,on the tenth tee we were joined by a committee member who said some people had heard my score and he was obliged to join our group as a bystander,after I told him of my discussed and the other 2 players also vented their anger he followed us for the back nine,i won the comp with a 46 points total,at the prize giving I told them of my utter discussed and down right cheek to accuse me of cheating after nine holes,i also told them that the original top prize had been changed from the one published and they were a gang of crooks,never been back since.

 

[garyinderry]

seems strange that word got back about your score? even stranger than they came out and followed you !

 

[Billysboots]

on the tenth tee we were joined by a committee member who said some people had heard my score and he was obliged to join our group as a bystander.

Obliged? My @rse. I would have stood there and refused to play another shot until he had returned to his port and lemon. I'm all for committee members enforcing rules and etiquette, but there are lines that simply should not be crossed and this is one.

If he believed you to have broken a rule that's one thing - if he was merely "alarmed" at your score he should have been told to reel his neck in.

 

[garyinderry]

ive only every witnessed 1 person having 26 on the front 9. it is a rare thing.


ive accumulated 46 points twice so I know its not impossible. in fact, one of those days I was beaten outright by a 47

 

[duncan mackie]

ive only every witnessed 1 person having 26 on the front 9. it is a rare thing.


ive accumulated 46 points twice so I know its not impossible. in fact, one of those days I was beaten outright by a 47

was that you - sorry.........I did it to someone once in a Q comp on our shorter course, stay clear now

the way a course is set up against conditions is a huge factor in how some players can score (or not score!) as already suggested - this is a very significant factor to many 5-10 handicap players. The other obvious one is when the par is inflated over the SSS, which can easily give a score of 40 for basic SSS scoring, before scoring well even starts!

 

[tugglesf239]

I have only this year joined up as a member, ostensibly so that i can start to play competitive jobs (and because it has dramatically reduced my green fee / petrol costs )

I have been reading this forum very heavily recently, paying particular attention to discussions regarding medal play etc. Mainly because i am very curious about the little technicalities and expected etiquette that i will no doubt be scrutinised for.

I am an ex 14 handicapper (completely unofficial) but was out the game for a couple of years due to a bad back. Recently i have been playing to about 20-21 whilst i await my last few cards to be signed off by the HC committee.

To cut to the chase, threads like this make me wonder if i am doing the right thing by starting in the comps. My personal goal is to dramatically reduce my HC as quickly as possible and if i am being honest, i think i can get back down to 17 - 18 this year.

I have got to say however the thought of people being so outraged that a high handicapper has the "audacity" to score high, that they feel they have to tell the world that they have been cheated is bugging me slightly.

God forbid that i should have an excellent round, feel royally proud of myself but then be labeled a bandit, just because i am off 20.

Not that i have any chance of ever scoring 40+ mind you :thup:

 

[duncan mackie]

I have only this year joined up as a member, ostensibly so that i can start to play competitive jobs (and because it has dramatically reduced my green fee / petrol costs )

I have been reading this forum very heavily recently, paying particular attention to discussions regarding medal play etc. Mainly because i am very curious about the little technicalities and expected etiquette that i will no doubt be scrutinised for.

I am an ex 14 handicapper (completely unofficial) but was out the game for a couple of years due to a bad back. Recently i have been playing to about 20-21 whilst i await my last few cards to be signed off by the HC committee.

To cut to the chase, threads like this make me wonder if i am doing the right thing by starting in the comps. My personal goal is to dramatically reduce my HC as quickly as possible and if i am being honest, i think i can get back down to 17 - 18 this year.

I have got to say however the thought of people being so outraged that a high handicapper has the "audacity" to score high, that they feel they have to tell the world that they have been cheated is bugging me slightly.

God forbid that i should have an excellent round, feel royally proud of myself but then be labeled a bandit, just because i am off 20.

Not that i have any chance of ever scoring 40+ mind you :thup:

relax - the system will handle you unless you go out of your way to avoid Q competitions. The best thing you can do is throw yourself into it, competitions and all. The handicap committee have a responsibility to monitor new handicap allocations over and above the normal procedures, the ESR system will pick up consistent high scores and, most importantly, you wouldn't be the first person who finds it harder to return such scores in a competition than they first think!

 

[Ian_S]

in all my golfing years I've found the dry weather, hard running fairways and warmer weather helps higher h/caps enormously as they can get 30-40yds run so its a 9 iron now instead of the 5 iron or hybrid approaches (no offense higher h/cappers), and if they have a half decent shortgame then low scores and high stableford points will ensue.

It's been this way for as long as I remember regardless of what super technology equipment was the flavour of the day.

Interesting theory. I will have to have a look at it. The numbers are all there on HDID, just need a bit of maths wizardry and I'll have something for you.

 

[Garesfield ACE]

in all my golfing years I've found the dry weather, hard running fairways and warmer weather helps higher h/caps enormously as they can get 30-40yds run so its a 9 iron now instead of the 5 iron or hybrid approaches (no offense higher h/cappers), and if they have a half decent shortgame then low scores and high stableford points will ensue.

It's been this way for as long as I remember regardless of what super technology equipment was the flavour of the day.

great post

 

[Garesfield ACE]

ive only every witnessed 1 person having 26 on the front 9. it is a rare thing.


ive accumulated 46 points twice so I know its not impossible. in fact, one of those days I was beaten outright by a 47

hi gary

i did it a few weeks ago when i won a weekend comp at mine.....26 points on front 9......HALF GAME OF MY LIFE.....7 PARS....1 BOGEY...1 DOUBLE...3 OVER.

 

[ArnoldArmChewer]

I noticed the results on the club website for a men's comp over the weekend..... some guy off 20 managed a net 56!

Same the world over, always some bloke off 20 shooting a nett 50's round.

 

[louise_a]

I had 23 on the front nine last week, including 2 doubles, balls running miles, on the fringe of 2 par 5s in 2, the girl who won the comp had 25 on the front nine including a double, she played off 12 so not a falsely high handicap.

 

[markgs]

so he played well get over it next week he could score 15 points... seriously get over it

 

[garyinderry]

hi gary

i did it a few weeks ago when i won a weekend comp at mine.....26 points on front 9......HALF GAME OF MY LIFE.....7 PARS....1 BOGEY...1 DOUBLE...3 OVER.

its not impossible, just very rare. my mate birdied two par 3's playing off 20 on the front 9. think he was something like 2 or 3 over standing on the 10th tee. he started to try and guide the ball instead of swinging normally on the back 9. he won the comp but could of had a much bigger score in the end.

well done with your 26 points. cherish it as you wont see too many scores like that as you come down.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

47 in a BB is good scoring but not excessive in my opinion. As a single player scoring that high then it is a little difficult to be as forgiving especially if the handicapper doesn't always catch up with these players and there is chance they can still go low

 

[Cityfanbrian]

its not impossible, just very rare. my mate birdied two par 3's playing off 20 on the front 9. think he was something like 2 or 3 over standing on the 10th tee. he started to try and guide the ball instead of swinging normally on the back 9. he won the comp but could of had a much bigger score in the end.

well done with your 26 points. cherish it as you wont see too many scores like that as you come down.

Ive had a couple of days out...I shot 40 on the front 9 when I was off 28 for a net 26. I finished with 88 gross, 60 net.
i also had 45 points, 20 on the front 9, 25 on the back while off 19, HAPPY DAYS.

 

[TheJezster]

As others have said above, it can happen. Our xmas comp (same format) was won this year with 51 points! Me and my drawn partner came 4th with 46 points, so not uncommon at all.

As for singles, my best ever front 9 was 27 points, which was 1 birdie, 6 pars and 2 bogies for a 1 over 34. Did that last year. Ok, back 9 wasnt as good because i realised my score, but it just goes to show it can happen.

Some people have great rounds every now and again, as long as Q comps are being played in, the handicaps will level out after a spurt, if thats what it is.